PC Principal V: What The Fuck Am I Reading

[Zealot]

Itchy beard.

[Greatguardian]

I do not believe you.

It's the truth, though. I haven't had dinner yet, but that was breakfast+lunch. Dinner will be a baked chicken breast - salt, pepper, and Cayenne but no sauces. - and a sweet potato. This has been my normal for about a year now. I just sit at a computer all day for work. Literally all day, forget that 9-5 easy mode nonsense.

I haven't had soda since 2012 and never liked sweet tea. The only drinks in my fridge are water and a pitcher of unsweet iced tea I make myself (Lipton and water). I drink alcohol maybe on a first or second date to avoid making people uncomfortable but never at home.

With a diet like this I've managed to maintain my weight for a couple years. No gains, no losses.

The temptation to hate people who shovel burgers and fries into their mouths is strong because they make all fatties look bad, but fuck it I ain't their keeper.

[tenkiki]

Your friend is either bulimic or has a lifestyle that allows them to eat such meals while losing weight. As for you, sitting constantly means your BMR is so low that even a healthy diet will probably not be enough to create a calorie deficit to lose weight.

I still don't understand the whole idea of having to choose between exercise or some other lifestyle activity when you can effortlessly combine them. I watch Netflix while running at the gym and my friend pedals on a miniature desk bike while gaming. If you're lazy, fine, but it's not this impossible juggling act. My final warning- when you're older, shit's going to go downhill fast, and by then the damage will be irreversible no matter how healthy you try to be.

[Zetanio]

If he's not losing weight on 700 calories a day something is TERRIBLY wrong.
1 lb of broccoli - 153 calories
1 large sweet potato - 120-200 calories
1 large chicken breast - 270 calories

This is a starvation diet. If you are actually eating this little and not losing weight. GO TO A DOCTOR. You may be eating too few calories.

[Zetanio]

For reference, I can eat 1400-1600 calories a day, not get out of bed, and lose weight.

[Ezek]

Log your food on myfitnesspal. Chances are good that you're miscounting calories like I was when I first started. Turns out the 1700 cals I was on was really 2500 when a buddy checked and added in drinks, sauces, forgotten snacks, etc.

My fall from obesity involved 0 gym time and 100% diet check. That being said, looking like a skinny fat nerd is only a notch below from being actually fat so the next step generally involves pushing or pulling iron.

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[Yabby]

This is what I was thinking of

"Metabolism appears to act like a spring, Hall said: the more effort you exert to lose weight, the more it stretches out, and the harder it will spring back, regaining and holding onto the fat that was lost."

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...ht-is-back-up/

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The biggest loser is one of the craziest weight loss people can do. They take you, isolate you from all bad influences, force a tailored diet to you while having you work out 6 to 8 hours a day for weeks. Of course, they will lose weight and learn nothing. The second they are put back into the real world, without really learning balance, they would go right back.

I don't want to go too into this anymore, as we are really taking this off topic. We can take this to the fitness thread if needed, as there are a few studies that have shown metabolisms recover, even after long-term calorie restrictions.

[Psion]

As far as I go, i've always been fat even as a kid. I wouldn't say morbidly obese back then, but even when i was around 14 years old and 5' 0" i was 150 lb. as i grew it shot up to 6' 0" and 225 lb, where it mostly stayed (excluding weeks of pigging out on fast food, where it usually ballooned to 250 then slowly went back down to 225). at least it did till i had a desk job with lots of snacks. shot up to 270 in only 5 months and it stayed there despite my efforts to lose weight. both the 225 and 270 mark i tried caloric restriction (1500-1800 calories a day), keto, eating only during a few hours stretch in a day, cutting out all sugary drinks, exercise... nothing made my weight budge over the years, much to my frustration.

cue a few months ago i got so mad i decided to try fasting for a long stretch of time. to be specific, it was 3 days, then a week recovery, then 5 days, another week or so recovery, then i managed to pull out a whopping 13 days stretch, before halting it the last couple months. during that time i just drank water, crammed some magnesium/sodium/potassium salts mix into pills and swallowed them to keep up electrolytes, and took a multivitamin once a day. honestly, the starving part isn't even hard. after a day or so cravings go away almost entirely. it's the lack of tasting anything but water that drives you mad, even with good water you start hating it. sadly, my taste buds are too sensitive for artificial sweeteners or stevia, they taste godsawful to me, so water alone it is.

I went from 270 in that time to 246, where after resuming eating it shot back up to 256 (water weight) and now has been, oddly enough, going back down slowly on my normal eating. no dieting or anything. it's hovering around 248-252 currently over the course of the last month since that fast. Currently trying to build up the willpower to do another long stretch because so far that's the only thing that's worked.

As far as exercise goes i'm sedentary at home, but i'm a cashier at work for 35~ hours a week, which involves standing for about 6-7 hours a day, constantly lifting 1-20 lb objects, and i swear every second person here buys 100$ in beer, mostly in 30 can boxes. (we don't have scanner guns so i have to lift the damn things and my shoulders are messed up now.) the rest seem to buy 30 packs of water. i was not losing weight at all in this job nor the previous one as a cake decorator (standing all day, occasional heavy lifting, constantly waving hands about or squeezing the hell out of icing bags that make those tension balls for carpal tunnel look soft - and no, i was not eating the cakes. i hate sweet stuff unless it's fruit.)

I suspect that maybe gut bacteria have something to do with obesity in some people, which might explain in part why obesity is increasing - yes diet and exercise are important, but the wrong gut bacteria probably make losing weight even harder and more discouraging. it might explain why my weight isn't coming back this time and why i suddenly seem to be losing weight slowly without effort again. i might have just wound up starving all the bad bacteria out and started with a clean slate.

Not saying water fasting is for everyone, but if you're careful and do your research, and have at least some muscle and fat both (and no serious physical or mental health issues), it's another option. i know some people losing weight this way said they didn't have loose skin issues either, and their pictures seemed to confirm it. I've not seen any lose skin myself either but i've only lost 20 lb so far. i have noticed that so far the lower back issues that were plaguing me are now mostly gone. i still get a sore back at work but at least the sharp pains have disappeared.

[GoggleHead]

Do you mean the definition wherein it only applies to government action against citizens, which has been the only definition ever used for all of time?

I would expect nothing less from a duplicitous jew with political aspirations. Free speech has always been a principle which all Americans should aspire to uphold. The First Amendment simply codifies the fact that the government itself is barred from wavering from that ideal. Every caveat and deviation from that is a small loss of the spirit and character of our nation. The reality is that everyone will at some point throw up their hands and say "here is where I make exceptions to this principle and am willing to infringe upon others' ability to speak", which is why it is so important for our nation as a whole to adhere to the ideal and tell people to fuck right off when they try to draw that line. It's a communal effort to protect that ideal and people like you rolling in to say "oh it's just a legal prohibition against government" are doing nothing less than attempting to destroy the ideal. If you do not understand and cherish the principle of freedom of speech, you are not an American and you need to get the fuck out of my country.

[Byrthnoth]

These posts are fat

[zoobernut]

I would expect nothing less from a duplicitous jew with political aspirations. Free speech has always been a principle which all Americans should aspire to uphold. The First Amendment simply codifies the fact that the government itself is barred from wavering from that ideal. Every caveat and deviation from that is a small loss of the spirit and character of our nation. The reality is that everyone will at some point throw up their hands and say "here is where I make exceptions to this principle and am willing to infringe upon others' ability to speak", which is why it is so important for our nation as a whole to adhere to the ideal and tell people to fuck right off when they try to draw that line. It's a communal effort to protect that ideal and people like you rolling in to say "oh it's just a legal prohibition against government" are doing nothing less than attempting to destroy the ideal. If you do not understand and cherish the principle of freedom of speech, you are not an American and you need to get the fuck out of my country.

Well that was an entertaining piece of drivel to read.

[Zetanio]

I would expect nothing less from a duplicitous jew with political aspirations. Free speech has always been a principle which all Americans should aspire to uphold. The First Amendment simply codifies the fact that the government itself is barred from wavering from that ideal. Every caveat and deviation from that is a small loss of the spirit and character of our nation. The reality is that everyone will at some point throw up their hands and say "here is where I make exceptions to this principle and am willing to infringe upon others' ability to speak", which is why it is so important for our nation as a whole to adhere to the ideal and tell people to fuck right off when they try to draw that line. It's a communal effort to protect that ideal and people like you rolling in to say "oh it's just a legal prohibition against government" are doing nothing less than attempting to destroy the ideal. If you do not understand and cherish the principle of freedom of speech, you are not an American and you need to get the fuck out of my country.

It's not your country. It's ours. Wee babby.

[Yabby]

If you do not understand and cherish the principle of freedom of speech, you are not an American and you need to get the fuck out of my country.

This was the best part.

Are you saying you don't have a line on free speech and everyone should be able to say anything, anywhere, using any platform without repercussion?

[Athas]

People who shout fire in crowded theaters are the real Americans.

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[Tarage]

Bane post god dammit.

[archibaldcrane]

I'm down from 212 to 198.4 over the past 25 days. It's annoying to lose weight, not because of the low ache of hunger but just the lack of joy in eating. Hope to be down to 190 by the end of this job (6 weeks away) - shouldn't be a big problem, just annoying.

I basically have a protein shake for breakfast, a korean short rib salad bowl for lunch (M-F) and eat a normal dinner, with maybe some whiskey. I pound diet cokes and coke zeros all day basically, and don't snack. After the initial surge of weight loss I lose about .3 lb per day at this rate.

It's certainly annoying though. Can't eat with my kids when I make pancakes or french toast or muffins or whatever (they like to help cook in the mornings), don't work out much because recovery takes forever at this calorie deficit, a little irritable but that subsides mostly after the first 10 days or so.

[Andalusian girls]

I'm not sure I'll ever be able to hear Zealot referred to again without thinking, 'ah yes the duplicitous jew with political aspirations'.

[Andalusian girls]

also requiescat in pace gogel we'll miss you

not in the literal sense but you know

we'll laugh about you occasionally is what I'm saying

[Mertron]

I would expect nothing less from a duplicitous jew with political aspirations. Free speech has always been a principle which all Americans should aspire to uphold. The First Amendment simply codifies the fact that the government itself is barred from wavering from that ideal. Every caveat and deviation from that is a small loss of the spirit and character of our nation. The reality is that everyone will at some point throw up their hands and say "here is where I make exceptions to this principle and am willing to infringe upon others' ability to speak", which is why it is so important for our nation as a whole to adhere to the ideal and tell people to fuck right off when they try to draw that line. It's a communal effort to protect that ideal and people like you rolling in to say "oh it's just a legal prohibition against government" are doing nothing less than attempting to destroy the ideal. If you do not understand and cherish the principle of freedom of speech, you are not an American and you need to get the fuck out of my country.

but why won’t football man stand for magic song

[Niiro]

I'm not sure I'll ever be able to hear Zealot referred to again without thinking, 'ah yes the duplicitous jew with political aspirations'.

Can someone make this his new title.