PC Principal V: What The Fuck Am I Reading

[Byrthnoth]

Isn't A-rod 90%? (and 10% A-roid)

[Zealot]

Miles is half-Hispanic, yeah.

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[Andalusian girls]

Isn't Miles Morales half?

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Tom Holland is not

[chazzyphizzle]

im not 100% sure a-rod is even human

[Salodin]

still waiting on a Hispanic superhero tbh largest ethnic minority in the states and we're lagging behind women blacks raccoons cyborgs and trees smh

You have Alexandria ocasio-cortez you ungrateful ingrate

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[Robertfb]

It does matter. To people who grew up their entire lives seeing someone else in the role of the hero, representation matters a lot. What you see as virtue signaling, those of us who are part of a minority see as media catching up to reality.

If you did a statistical analysis of sexuality, race and gender in entertainment and then compared it to the statistical reality of the United States, do you think it would line up or do you think it would be heavily distorted? That's the point. We exist, and we want to see that reality reflected in the entertainment we consume.

This right here perfectly sums it up. The only reason it seems like pandering is simply because straight white males are used to already having media representation as "the hero" in any story and any deviation of this is met with "but why does it matter?"

Well it does matter to those who don't fit into that category, especially those growing up who don't see themselves in most protagonists in media. Spiderman: Into the Spiderverse is a good example of this, where as the cast/crew said perfectly at the Academy Awards: "This film shows everyone that anyone, no matter race/gender can be behind the mask."

On a related note, one of my favorite twitch streamers was asked this question: "How would you feel if the developers made Link (The Legend of Zelda hero) Gay?" and his response perfectly mirrors this issue, but from a straight male perspective: "Can... can they not? I don't want Link to be gay because I want to imagine I'm Link and I want him to get together with Zelda!"

[Vandalhart]

Just wanted to say Ghostbusters was fucking terrible and that's a good example of a movie that went above and beyond out of it's way to alienate a fanbase, weaponized identity politics, and made it all about gurl powah.

"Oh so you didn't like the movie? You're a misogynist!"

Ghostbusters remake is a good example of weaponizing identity politics to cash in. Those other examples not so much.

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Which I felt was the same with the Ocean's 8 movie when they were going through their press as well.

If anything Last Jedi did a disservice to female characters going forward for future movies in the franchise. All the women in 8 were unapologetic retards who only did shit cuz reasons.

I apologize because I was thinking Star Wars VIII and I typed Star Wars VII. Last Jedi was the one I was referencing.

This is what I took as Vandal's argument:
It seems like some of these studios/cast/organizations are making statements about how times are changing and people aren't going to like it. Because of this some people are feeling attacked, like what they enjoy is somehow offensive just for existing as it has. The more vocal among this group take to the social media platform of their choice and these statements get picked up by larger media outlets and twisted into a generalization that an entire subculture feels this way. In addition, there are some instances where characters or storylines are inserted into an existing source material just to try to push an agenda, similar to the Ghostbusters remake. People are being called out as bad people just because they don't like when these situations happen, when really they just want the story and characters to be one cohesive unit. If everything were one cohesive unit then there would be less "manufactured outrage."

Of course in that case, you're still going to have that vocal minority spewing BS about everything just being part of an agenda.

Thank you. You have done a way better job interpreting what I was trying to say than what I was able to communicate.

This right here perfectly sums it up. The only reason it seems like pandering is simply because straight white males are used to already having media representation as "the hero" in any story and any deviation of this is met with "but why does it matter?"

Well it does matter to those who don't fit into that category, especially those growing up who don't see themselves in most protagonists in media. Spiderman: Into the Spiderverse is a good example of this, where as the cast/crew said perfectly at the Academy Awards: "This film shows everyone that anyone, no matter race/gender can be behind the mask."

On a related note, one of my favorite twitch streamers was asked this question: "How would you feel if the developers made Link (The Legend of Zelda hero) Gay?" and his response perfectly mirrors this issue, but from a straight male perspective: "Can... can they not? I don't want Link to be gay because I want to imagine I'm Link and I want him to get together with Zelda!"

I'm trying my best to not start a back and forth with this response. I guess I should get that one rando's handle on twitch so I can go to him for the approved stance that speaks for all straight while males then.

[Milkster]

But it's not a small majority of nerd culture weaponizing their misogyny, sexism, homophobia, etc. Nerd culture has deep roots in gate keeping anyone that isn't a str8 white dude out.

These aren't a few people doing this and getting picked up by the mainstream media. It's a significant proportion of man child who can't handle that everything isn't about them and shouldn't cater to them.

All the movies you listed weren't shoe horning identity politics or viture signaling in them. They were presenting these characters with realistic problems actual people face and deal with.

[Ksandra]

That moment when RoV came out and you realized all the main story characters were chicks.


I don't think this matters to the discussion, but I'm throwing it in there anyway. Suck it.

[arus2001]

Never underestimate Japan's loli fetish.

[Mythe_Seraph]

still waiting on a Hispanic superhero tbh largest ethnic minority in the states and we're lagging behind women blacks raccoons cyborgs and trees smh

Michael Pena isn’t super enough for you? He’s my favorite avenger.

[Xno Kappa]

Antonio Banderas is the biggest role model we got. Meanwhile Zoe Saldana plays a black chick in the majority of her roles.

[Tyrath]

Antonio Banderas is the biggest role model we got. Meanwhile Zoe Saldana plays a blue/green chick in the majority of her roles.

FTFY

[Xno Kappa]

Black/blue/green versus a Hispanic maybe once or twice? GG Hollywood.

[Xno Kappa]

I’m stuck getting a Sheneneh barbie doll for my future daughter.

[Xno Kappa]