PC Principal V: What The Fuck Am I Reading

[Greatguardian]

Blackface is specifically when people, typically whites, use makeup to paint their faces black to portray a black character. It's not frowned upon because there's anything inherently wrong with wearing costumes, it's frowned upon because blackface was used for generations in film, theater, and entertainment in general to mock and lambast blacks.

[Vandalhart]

Blackface is specifically when people, typically whites, use makeup to paint their faces black to portray a black character. It's not frowned upon because there's anything inherently wrong with wearing costumes, it's frowned upon because blackface was used for generations in film, theater, and entertainment in general to mock and lambast blacks.

Okay, but all the talk I see about this stuff recently has been about Caucasian people dressing up as African/African-American characters. If they are doing it without mocking/painting their face, it's fine then? Maybe just race-bend it so you're not painting your face.

Blackface appears to be specifically under the context of mocking/humiliating Africans/African-Americans. If that's not the intent of the individual, then I think they should get a pass.

I liked Roker's outfit because I'm a fan of Back to the Future. I also like the other show that had a woman dressed up as Michaelango from TMNT. They are free to dress as they please, they clearly did so because they like the character, not making a social commentary on a specific group.

[thetruepandagod]

Blackface is specifically when people, typically whites, use makeup to paint their faces black to portray a black character. It's not frowned upon because there's anything inherently wrong with wearing costumes, it's frowned upon because blackface was used for generations in film, theater, and entertainment in general to mock and lambast blacks.

Can I do tan-face and dress up as the rock?

[Greatguardian]

Okay, but all the talk I see about this stuff recently has been about Caucasian people dressing up as African/African-American characters. If they are doing it without mocking/painting their face, it's fine then? Maybe just race-bend it so you're not painting your face.

Blackface appears to be specifically under the context of mocking/humiliating Africans/African-Americans. If that's not the intent of the individual, then I think they should get a pass.

I liked Roker's outfit because I'm a fan of Back to the Future. I also like the other show that had a woman dressed up as Michaelango from TMNT. They are free to dress as they please, they clearly did so because they like the character, not making a social commentary on a specific group.

Man, I liked his Doc Brown costume too. I haven't had my coffee yet, but let's be real this is how any reasonable conversation on this topic should go:

Person of Color: Hey, white guy. Can you not paint your face black when dressing up as MLK for Halloween?

White guy: Why not? I'm not trying to be offensive. I actually love and respect Dr. King. He's my hero!

Person of Color: Sure, that's cool and I respect and appreciate that. However, white folks painting their faces black, ie blackface, has been used for generations as a way to mock, ridicule, and dehumanize my people and my culture and I find it extremely distasteful.

White guy: Wow. That is totally understandable. Thank you for letting me know.

But, of course, there's always the significantly less reasonable followup that tends to happen any time black folks get a win in the news. Eg:

White guy: Hey, person of color. Can you not dress up as this canonically white fictional character for Halloween?

Person of Color: Why not? I'm not trying to be offensive. I actually love and respect Doc Brown. He's my hero!

White guy: Yeah, well blacks got to shut down some costume choices so it's only fair that whites get to shut some down too. If you don't agree you're racist.

[thetruepandagod]

Person of Color: However, white folks painting their faces black, ie blackface, has been used for generations as a way to mock, ridicule, and dehumanize my people and my culture and I find it extremely distasteful.

White guy: Wow. That is totally understandable. Thank you for letting me know.

Seems like a sure fire way to keep the act controversial never moving beyond it. What's the over/under on the number of generations we gotta go through before we can blackface in peace.

[NynJa]

Seems like a sure fire way to keep the act controversial never moving beyond it. What's the over/under on the number of generations we gotta go through before we can blackface in peace.

The planet will run out of natural resources before this happens.

[Greatguardian]

Seems like a sure fire way to keep the act controversial never moving beyond it. What's the over/under on the number of generations we gotta go through before we can blackface in peace.

If the present is any indication, it will take at least 1 generation beyond the one which barred black students from attending public schools and universities and assassinated their spiritual leaders.

[thetruepandagod]

If the present is any indication, it will take at least 1 generation beyond the one which barred black students from attending public schools and universities and assassinated their spiritual leaders.

I don't recall very many people in blackface as they killed MLK and slapped blacks off of campuses.

[thetruepandagod]

How many generations removed from tropic thunder do we have to be tho?

[Dimmauk]

I remember when native americans wanted Sports teams owners to change their team names and logos, and a very large majority of black people thought it was dumb to change the names and logos.

[Vandalhart]

Man, I liked his Doc Brown costume too. I haven't had my coffee yet, but let's be real this is how any reasonable conversation on this topic should go:

Person of Color: Hey, white guy. Can you not paint your face black when dressing up as MLK for Halloween?

White guy: Why not? I'm not trying to be offensive. I actually love and respect Dr. King. He's my hero!

Person of Color: Sure, that's cool and I respect and appreciate that. However, white folks painting their faces black, ie blackface, has been used for generations as a way to mock, ridicule, and dehumanize my people and my culture and I find it extremely distasteful.

White guy: Wow. That is totally understandable. Thank you for letting me know.

But, of course, there's always the significantly less reasonable followup that tends to happen any time black folks get a win in the news. Eg:

White guy: Hey, person of color. Can you not dress up as this canonically white fictional character for Halloween?

Person of Color: Why not? I'm not trying to be offensive. I actually love and respect Doc Brown. He's my hero!

White guy: Yeah, well blacks got to shut down some costume choices so it's only fair that whites get to shut some down too. If you don't agree you're racist.

Isn't there a false equivalency between those two situations? I think it's fair, that if you allow one group to dictate the action of the other, then you have a harder time defending their position when they do the exact same thing.

Now if you're specifying that the act of actually painting one's face is what the white guy is doing and that's the problem, then there should be no problem race bending the person/character he's dressing up as. That being said, that would mean that if Al Roker had gone ahead and painted his face a la "White Chicks" then that, to me, would be construed as the same thing.

For there to be blanket bans on people dressing up as historical figures or characters because they are not a member of the same race is a bit extreme and I can't really get on board with that.

[Gredival]

I remember when native americans wanted Sports teams owners to change their team names and logos, and a very large majority of black people thought it was dumb to change the names and logos.

Problems for thee not me. That's why economically disadvantaged whites don't like minorities getting entitlements.

The black community hasn't been supportive of LBGT advancement either.

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[dasva]

Seems like a sure fire way to keep the act controversial never moving beyond it. What's the over/under on the number of generations we gotta go through before we can blackface in peace.

I'm calling at least 6 up to infinity

[Andalusian girls]

you'll never move beyond a legacy of historical oppression unless you let us do whatever we want again!

[Andalusian girls]

honestly death to all white people

[Fiye]

Tony Hawk is at least cool with it.

[Andalusian girls]

[dasva]

honestly death to all white people

What's the cutoff for that though? Like what if you are 1/1024 non white?

[Andalusian girls]

i am 1/4th white myself and i will die if i must for this great crusade

[Dimmauk]

What's the cutoff for that though? Like what if you are 1/1024 non white?

The goto is the Family guy color chart