PC Principal V: What The Fuck Am I Reading

[Milkster]

Police officers in America are the worst gang in existence and they're funded by the government. ACAB

https://jezebel.com/im-begging-you-p...mpression=true

[NynJa]

Sometimes i wonder if milkster gave his account into to Mazmaz

[Yuri-G]

the thing about joking about beating your kid because he's acting gay is that for some of us that was never a joke, and people like Milkster have every right to react the way they do. if you haven't been there, don't judge his reaction. if you haven't been beaten up for being gay, you might not understand why it's not funny to us.

[Dimmauk]

Igotchu

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ne...tweets-1167784

Does Nick Cannon think Kyler Murray should get his Heisman trophy cancelled?

[Melena]

Sometimes i wonder if milkster gave his account into to Mazmaz

That or NotoriousBum

[NynJa]

the thing about joking about beating your kid because he's acting gay is that for some of us that was never a joke, and people like Milkster have every right to react the way they do. if you haven't been there, don't judge his reaction. if you haven't been beaten up for being gay, you might not understand why it's not funny to us.

I havent been beaten up for being gay because im not gay lol

Sounds like a pretty simple solution ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Zealot]

Nynja solved it, just choose not to be gay.

[Zealot]

Kind of like how Canadian teams just choose not to have any Stanley Cups.

[Yuri-G]

I havent been beaten up for being gay because im not gay lol

Sounds like a pretty simple solution ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Not funny, not smart, not cool.

[Gadritan]

I havent been beaten up for being gay because im not gay lol

Sounds like a pretty simple solution ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I got the shit beat out of me because one of my best friends is gay. We got jumped by 5 dudes leaving the bar. So I got a taste of the experience.

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[Karbuncle]

Because the reason the joke is supposed to be funny is relevant.

I need to watch the segment for context, but the pitch seems to be straight-forward "Straight guys don't want gay sons. That's what I would do and it has nothing to do with being homophobic." It's supposedly funny because of the absurdity of him trying to stop his son from being gay. But to gays who do deal who homophones that put children into conversion therapy, it probably isn't so funny

That being said a simple apology like, "I didn't realize the context in which I was telling my joke was uncomfortably close to experiences people have lived through and I did not intend to make light of their suffering" would be more than sufficient

Forgive me for dragging you back into this Gred as I do absolutely agree with your point, and in no accusatory fashion I ask a question, where do we draw the line, time wise and "offense" wise?

Take for instance Fat shaming/Bullying. This has led people to suicide, kids get beat up all the time for being fat, yet jokes at the expense of fat people are everywhere in all forms of media and aside from some small movements here and there, are socially acceptable and just... normal. You here on BG bully fat people too, I've specifically remember having arguments against people here on BG for their hatred of fat people and their justification of their gross hatred on the grounds "Fat people use more resources".

I'm not ignorant to some important differences either. You can lose weight, yes, and you can't "Lose gay". I look forward to how this will be used as a justification for it to be okay. Does that make suicide from fat bullying okay? Does that change the feeling of being ugly, unwanted or unloved that a fat kid can feel when he's bullied constantly for his weight and the way he is? Is it any different that the world is telling him that how he is isn't okay? Please bring up health risks and that losing weight would make him feel better and be a better person as if thats not the same theme of bullshit Gay people get fed in conversion camps.

Only reason I bring this up is because nobodies digging up tweets from 10 years ago to lynch someone over a fat joke, nor would I even want to live in that world.

If you want to snip a point for responding do it here: our society has changed drastically in the last 20 years. things acceptable back then aren’t acceptable now. Nobody should be held accountable or their career hostage over what af the time would be an acceptable if poor taste joke. Held them accountable for who they are today, their actions now, not a decade ago. We don’t need a cleansing crusade every single time...

I already know how BG stands when it comes to Fat people, so I can guess where this post is going to go. It'll come down to Oppression Olympics as it always does.

[NynJa]

Kind of like how Canadian teams just choose not to have any Stanley Cups.

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Take for instance Fat shaming/Bullying.

E-Z-P-Z
Being fat is a choice, being gay isnt.

[Karbuncle]

That’s honestly the only argument and justification for the bullying and suicide I expect to get. But I’ve been surprised before, and I suspect maybe I’ll be surprised again.

[Krandor]

There are far less fat celebrities then there are homosexual celebrities, and with so much of our culture these days derived by what famous people tell us to think on social media, it's easy to see how the perceptions can change.

Really though, it is as simple as Nynja is saying. Fat acceptance also loses out on the grounds that being overweight is unhealthy, whereas being gay/bi doesn't inherently make one more at risk for health issues.

[Eurell]

Thats pretty much the only explanation. Making fun of people for how they look is generally a dick move, its why I don't do it unless its someone I know will laugh it off or make fun of me back. But being fat is not in the same league as being gay, so its hard to really give a shit.

[Karbuncle]

Really though, it is as simple as Nynja is saying. Fat acceptance also loses out on the grounds that being overweight is unhealthy, whereas being gay/bi doesn't inherently make one more at risk for health issues.

Not to repeat it all but I did bring this up in the third section of my post. I get you can change being fat but is the psychological impact invalidated because of that? No, I'd argue its not.

But being fat is not in the same league as being gay, so its hard to really give a shit.

Why? Not that you're wrong but I'd love to hear your reasoning. Unless you're living in the Middle East or some Bigotted ass southern states gays have it pretty damn good right now, and any religious bigot who pulls some Anti-Gay shit is easily fucking LAMBASTED and hung on social media. We've made a lot of positive and much needed social change regarding the Homosexual community and I don't deny we still have ways to go and we're definitely not at a point where the discrimination is gone, but on a grand scale discrimination based on sexual orientation is fast fading outside of individual acts of bigotry.

I'm asking these questions because I want you to evaluate why you, any of you using this excuse, care if someone makes a Gay joke vs someone making a Fat joke. If its not about the psychological damage, if its not about the terrible effects it can have on people and suicides it can cause due to the negative social stigmas, if its not about the PEOPLE affected by it, than what are you left with? What justifications do you have for drawing the line on one instead of the other?

A pretty fucking shitty one if you ask me.

And if we really want to go down the dark hole of "They can't change who they are", I offer up small dick jokes.

[zoobernut]

There are far less fat celebrities then there are homosexual celebrities, and with so much of our culture these days derived by what famous people tell us to think on social media, it's easy to see how the perceptions can change.

Really though, it is as simple as Nynja is saying. Fat acceptance also loses out on the grounds that being overweight is unhealthy, whereas being gay/bi doesn't inherently make one more at risk for health issues.

I mean I get what you mean by qualifying that with the word "inherently" but for a very long time being gay/bi definitely increased your chances of contracting very serious illnesses/STD's and could be said increased a persons risk for health issues. From a population/statistical standpoint at least. I imagine that is largely mitigated these days. Also I guess it is more connected to the lifestyle the person lead rather than their sexual orientation.

[Dimmauk]

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E-Z-P-Z
Being fat is a choice, being gay isnt.

Someone being fat is not simply caused by greed, laziness or a lack of willpower. There are multiple factors at play, many of which occur within our brain and physiology.

A lot of these are completely out of our control, including genetics, childhood habits, medical conditions and hormones.

Its also interesting that Gays are the biggest offenders of fat shaming.

White people have been shitting on dark people for years
Dark people have been shitting on gays for years
Gays have been shitting on fat people for years

Sorry if I've missed a tortured group of people.

[zoobernut]

It is not simply caused by greed, laziness or a lack of willpower. There are multiple factors at play, many of which occur within our brain and physiology.

A lot of these are completely out of our control, including genetics, childhood habits, medical conditions and hormones.

Its also interesting that Gays are the biggest offenders of fat shaming.

White people have been shitting on dark people for years
Dark people have been shitting on gays for years
Gays have been shitting on fat people for years

Sorry if I've missed a tortured group of people.

I mean the bottom line is that it is human nature to fling the shit downhill. Some of the worst bullies were the most bullied etc. It is easy to decry someone shitting on your demographic but it is hard to stop your own demographic from shitting on their target of choice.

[Zealot]

Oh no will they be LAMBASTED on social media??

Will already rich and famous people lose hosting gigs that will not affect their careers in any way?

Will normal everyday people who perform countless acts of aggression against homosexuals and have an administration in power backing them up continue to do what they want without repercussion so long as they're not famous and on Twitter?