Predisent Donald J. Trump: Episode VII: Space Force Awakens | Keep Trumpy Bear Great

[Dotsudoku]

I'm not going to vote for evil, even the lesser of two evils. I'm going to vote for someone who's positions I fundamentally agree with. If that's wrong, I'm happy to be wrong.

this is a significant factor in why "nothing gets done"

[Gredival]

I'm not going to vote for evil, even the lesser of two evils. I'm going to vote for someone who's positions I fundamentally agree with. If that's wrong, I'm happy to be wrong.

The fact is that you are in effect supporting the greater of two evils by refusing to support the lesser evil, even if only half effectively as someone who actually votes R.

"You think you're better than everyone else. But where you stand, the good man doing nothing while evil triumphs and your rigid pacifism crumbles into blood-stained dust, the only victory afforded to you is that you stuck true to your guns. You are a coward, to your last whimper."

[djzombie]

The fact is that you are in effect supporting the greater of two evils by refusing to support the lesser evil, even if only half effectively as someone who actually votes R.

"You think you're better than everyone else. But where you stand, the good man doing nothing while evil triumphs and your rigid pacifism crumbles into blood-stained dust, the only victory afforded to you is that you stuck true to your guns. You are a coward, to your last whimper."

This logic is why American politics will continue to be a two party system that caters to corporations, the wealthy, and continues to bomb poor brown people in the middle east to acquire their resources.

You can call me coward for voting for someone I actually agree with, I call you a coward for voting for someone you don't. So I think at this point we can just agree to disagree.

[Gredival]

The system will continue to be two-parties because it is a first past the post so voters willing to work in coalitions will always dominate those who vote strict ideology.

Your purity got us Bush 43 over Gore and Trump over Hillary. And you excuse that by saying inane shit like the flu is just as bad as Stage IV metastatic cancer.

That or you're too ignorant to even see the distinctions because you don't understand politics and hold the Democrats accountable for not getting anything done while being a minority party. Not quite sure which is worse.

[djzombie]

A.) All you're doing currently is insulting me and assuming things that aren't true.
B.) I voted for Gore and Barack - Hilary can fuck off - sorry I don't buy into the "it's her turn" entitled bullshit.

And you excuse that by saying inane shit like the flu is just as bad as Stage IV metastatic cancer.

Haven't said anything near that so again, stop putting words in my mouth.

In fact, I'm out, you don't seem capable of civil debate without insults or assumptions.

[Dotsudoku]

dunno if you're just not following his metaphors, but that's very obviously been the sum of your argument for the last several pages

[Gredival]

A.) All you're doing currently is insulting me

Because you deserve it.

and assuming things that aren't true.

Like what?

I gave you 50 floor votes in which the Dems voted in a demonstrably different way than the GOP. You claim to be fine with regulation vs. abolishment, but this still wasn't good enough for you because it didn't result in change. Even though the minority party can't change things.

B.) I voted for Gore and Barack - Hilary can fuck off - sorry I don't buy into the "it's her turn" entitled bullshit.

But it's okay to let Trump win.

Haven't said anything near that so again, stop putting words in my mouth.

Yes you have. When you spout stupid bullshit like saying you will only vote for someone you agree with, saying that you will not vote for the lesser of two evils, that's what you are doing.

You're just too much of a coward to acknowledge the logical consequences of your positions. I will fully embrace killing 1000 people to save 1001. Meanwhile you refuse to vote for someone whose biggest imperfection is being a creature of the system and allow a walking catastrophe to have access to the nuclear football and absolve yourself of blame.

In fact, I'm out, you don't seem capable of civil debate without insults or assumptions.

I can deal with disagreeing with someone who has legitimate disagreement, even if it is the consequences of ridiculous or outright offensive beliefs.

I will not entertain stupid bullshit against "the system" by someone who has demonstrated zero understanding of that system.

Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan, Dick Cheney, Karl Rove are all terrible people who have done terrible things. But I respect all of them a lot more than third party Nader and Jill Stein voters. Again, I'm insulting you because you deserve it.

[Zealot]

I'm not saying people who didn't vote for Hillary are dumb but they sure come up with some dumb reasons.

[Dotsudoku]

most notably that it embodies the contradiction between "change isn't coming quickly enough" and "I won't vote for imperfection"

[Lucavi]

Yeah I'm alright with it until the "I won't vote for Hillary because she isnt perfect" while ignoring the consequences of that hubris.

[kuronosan]

Just take away his guns. Then he'll vote.

[Dimmauk]

I'm not saying people who didn't vote for Hillary are dumb but they sure come up with some dumb reasons.

Emails, pedo-ring, and murder. LOLOLOLOL

[Kaslo]

It’s funny because I was gonna vote third party since my state doesn’t matter, but talked myself into Hillary because one of my favorite politicians (Cherokee Chief Baker) was a Hilary elector, and it was the only way I was going to get to vote for him since I’m not Cherokee