SCOTUS Thread (News and Discussion) II: Rape Isn't On My Calendar

[Forte]

China forced couples to abort up until recently. That's what he's talking about.

You're telling me that in this very specific conversation about the US and abortion, Day is randomly inserting China?

There is a biiiiiiiiiiiiiig difference between saying "I don't like abortion, I wish people didn't abort, but I will not stop you from doing so" and "I don't like abortion so fuck you and fuck your unborn child to a life of suffering".

no room for anything in between?

This quote. This one, right here. Are you telling me that Day, in suggesting there is someone "in between", is referring to people in China being forced to have abortions?

[kuronosan]

You're telling me that in this very specific conversation about the US and abortion, Day is randomly inserting China?




This quote. This one, right here. Are you telling me that Day, in suggesting there is someone "in between", is referring to people in China being forced to have abortions?

You're connecting Cream's comments with Day's. Disconnect them before you give yourself a headache.

They're saying the in between is what's important as opposed to the extremes, which would be "total banning" or "mandatory".

[Forte]

My point is that the people who are against abortions want to force their decision on others.

The people who want CHOICE are not forcing their decisions on others, they let people make decisions for themselves.

So it's already not a black and white; the only way the people who are fine with abortions would be the same as those who want to ban it are if they forced people who wanted kids to get abortions (the same way the people who are against abortions want to force ppl who don't want kids to have kids)

I mean is it that hard to understand? do I need to break it down to a 5th grade reading level? would that make it easier to comprehend?

Yes, because I seriously don't understand how all the people you are talking about don't either fit into the camps of "I will not prevent you from having an abortion" vs "I will prevent you from having an abortion". Those really are the only two camps. That's as black and white as it gets.

[Forte]

You're connecting Cream's comments with Day's. Disconnect them before you give yourself a headache.

They're saying the in between is what's important as opposed to the extremes, which would be "total banning" or "mandatory".

Cream was replying to my request that Day clarify what the hell he's talking about.

[kuronosan]

so does anyone know about the deer rifle scenario or what

Hypothetically the decision isn't final so opinions could change, and probably would if that happened.

[Cream Soda]

Yes, because I seriously don't understand how all the people you are talking about don't either fit into the camps of "I will not prevent you from having an abortion" vs "I will prevent you from having an abortion". Those really are the only two camps. That's as black and white as it gets.

Those are not the same types of camp though.

one is forcing their views on others.

One is letting people decide for themselves

Every person in camp A denies your right to an abortion

Every person in camp B doesn't say you should or shouldn't ahve one, it's up to you

One camp gives you 2 options; the other gives you 1; not the same thing

[Forte]

Those are not the same types of camp though.

one is forcing their views on others.

One is letting people decide for themselves

Every person in camp A denies your right to an abortion

Every person in camp B doesn't say you should or shouldn't ahve one, it's up to you

One camp gives you 2 options; the other gives you 1; not the same thing

I never said they were the same type of camp. My only argument was "There are two camps. You are either in one, or the other. There is no middle ground between the two."

My further argument was that everyone in the camp of "Fuck you, no abortions" is a hypocritical asshole who doesn't actually give a single fuck about the babies they are "saving".

[6souls]

so does anyone know about the deer rifle scenario or what

Something something Celtics

[Cream Soda]

I never said they were the same type of camp. My only argument was "There are two camps. You are either in one, or the other. There is no middle ground between the two."

one camp is more inclusive/sensitive than the other

[Forte]

one camp is more inclusive/sensitive than the other

Yes, and the other camp is full of hypocrites who don't give a single fuck about the babies they are claiming to save.

I'm glad we're on the same page. Now if only Day could clarify his comments.

[kuronosan]

"You're wrong. Glad we agree."

[Day]

hey goofy this was your initial post and there is no clarification on here that you mean people who actively vote against abortion or anything like that

This is the crux of the matter. I firmly believe that people who are anti-abortion don't actually give a single fuck about the children. If they did, they would support universal daycare, universal healthcare, free lunches at schools, increased school money, increased mental health money, college loan forgiveness, and pretty much everything that planned parenthood does that isn't directly tied to abortion. Plus a good chunk of the white men so upset about abortion wouldn't even blink if their daughter got raped and needed one. I know that last one for a fact because I've seen the cognitive dissidence first hand when someone on thedonald brings up "joggers" and they leap on the "LET THOSE N*****S GET ABORTIONS" all day. Fucking hypocritical swine.

in your mind anyone "anti abortion" doesn't give a fuck about children when I'm not the only one to come in here and to tell you that you are wrong on that front and many pro lifers put their money where their mouth is

my whole point since you can't seem to grasp it that putting people into 2 buckets that you deem so black and white is like 8th grade critical thinking level of how you should view people

theres also plenty to be said about not understanding your enemy and getting defeated because of it. im suggesting you get to understand where some prolifers are coming from instead of assuming the worst about everyone

you also come off as really antagonistic for no reason and i dont care for that

[Mrbeansman]

to be honest, the fact that nobody even got a shot off at Obama made me significantly downgrade the my estimation of the threat of militant white supremacy in America. Now we've seen dozens of abortion clinic bombings / abortion doctor assassinations in the past few decades, but I do wonder whether the pro-choice side has the juice or not, especially under a short timeframe.

Surprising (or maybe not?) aside: 100% of the killers of the 11 people in anti-abortion terrorism in America were caught.

I am consistently disappointed that no leftist in this country has the stones to die a hero and take 2 or 3 of the conservative justices out.

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[Mrbeansman]

Also fucks sake people you've seen Day do this shit for years now why are you still falling for it?

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[Salodin]

I am consistently disappointed that no leftist in this country has the stones to die a hero and take 2 or 3 of the conservative justices out.

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Damn bruh we can't be like this

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[Day]

yall say some wild shit on here

[Mrbeansman]

I mean is there another way to get rid of activist judges with lifetime appointments and no accountability?

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[kuronosan]

Also fucks sake people you've seen Day do this shit for years now why are you still falling for it?

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I actually think Day is being serious with this one.

[Tymon]

Reading the last few pages has me convinced there's an imaginary person in this thread that thinks abortions are amazing or something.

I don't see how it's such an impossibility to recognize that aborting a pregnancy is tragic. It is always tragic. There is no reality in which it is not tragic in any circumstance. But many things that are tragic are also necessary. The vast majority of abortions are necessary. These two things are not mutually exclusive.

You'd think that the evil pro choice leftists are masturbating to abortion videos or something based on some of these takes.

[Forte]

hey goofy this was your initial post and there is no clarification on here that you mean people who actively vote against abortion or anything like that



in your mind anyone "anti abortion" doesn't give a fuck about children when I'm not the only one to come in here and to tell you that you are wrong on that front and many pro lifers put their money where their mouth is

my whole point since you can't seem to grasp it that putting people into 2 buckets that you deem so black and white is like 8th grade critical thinking level of how you should view people

theres also plenty to be said about not understanding your enemy and getting defeated because of it. im suggesting you get to understand where some prolifers are coming from instead of assuming the worst about everyone

you also come off as really antagonistic for no reason and i dont care for that

You are correct, "anti abortion" doesn't give a fuck about children because the only way you can be "anti abortion" and give a fuck about children is if you had already championed the requirements for children not to suffer from being forced into this world through the removal of abortion. Again, there are literally two buckets. You keep saying there aren't, but you have yet to give a single example of a person who doesn't fit into either bucket, so I'm assuming you just don't have one.