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    Quote Originally Posted by Tymon View Post
    The only real rebuttal I have for this is that the rest of the developed world doesn't have this kind of issue for the most part. The vast majority of all major multinational corporations are in the US and China. That doesn't mean their system wouldn't work; in fact it would probably work better than ours, but I just think it's slightly facetious for a small country with a completely different set of circumstances to be instructing the US on tax policy.
    Nothing you say gives a reason for why having corporations housed in our nation means we can't have outcomes similar to other developed nations. We should be making money, be enriched, by these corporations calling our nation home. We shouldn't be giving up things like public works and national healthcare because we want to make sure McDonalds doesnt move its HQ to Ireland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salodin View Post
    Nothing you say gives a reason for why having corporations housed in our nation means we can't have outcomes similar to other developed nations. We should be making money, be enriched, by these corporations calling our nation home. We shouldn't be giving up things like public works and national healthcare because we want to make sure McDonalds doesnt move its HQ to Ireland.

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    I don't have an answer because I agree with you. I'm just incredibly skeptical and pessimistic on the willingness of American corporate overlords to pay their share.

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    They wont. You kinda have to force them to, and make it worth their effort to pay up rather than just pick up and move.

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    Well we have one big cost that most of those nations go pretty light on... which certainly needs cuts but not as light as them.


    Some things also somehow seem to cost a lot more here for some reason... like look at public train proposals... we literally decades behind other countries and yet somehow it still costs an arm and leg which often gets them doa. Like how the fuck did we go way over budget and over schedule building a pretty simple oldschool train that goes about the speed of highway traffic near me (and still not done) when other countries off building futuristic floating trains going hundreds of mph

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tymon View Post
    I don't have an answer because I agree with you. I'm just incredibly skeptical and pessimistic on the willingness of American corporate overlords to pay their share.
    Yeah but I mean if they're already paying effective tax rate X while being told they should be paying Y, isn't it in everyone's best interests to just close the loopholes and bring their assigned tax rate down to X? They pay the same, while we actually benefit from their revenue

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dotsudoku View Post
    Yeah but I mean if they're already paying effective tax rate X while being told they should be paying Y, isn't it in everyone's best interests to just close the loopholes and bring their assigned tax rate down to X? They pay the same, while we actually benefit from their revenue

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    Some people have great benefit from/use more loopholes/exemption than others. I'd imagine those that do would are happy the way things are

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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    Well we have one big cost that most of those nations go pretty light on... which certainly needs cuts but not as light as them.


    Some things also somehow seem to cost a lot more here for some reason... like look at public train proposals... we literally decades behind other countries and yet somehow it still costs an arm and leg which often gets them doa. Like how the fuck did we go way over budget and over schedule building a pretty simple oldschool train that goes about the speed of highway traffic near me (and still not done) when other countries off building futuristic floating trains going hundreds of mph
    The Weeds did a podcast on this very thing. The short answer is its complicated and no one wants to use what other countries have learned cause unions, jobs, and 'Murika.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salodin View Post
    The Weeds did a podcast on this very thing. The short answer is its complicated and no one wants to use what other countries have learned cause unions, jobs, and 'Murika.

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    You know what's extra funny about that is some of it is stuff they learned from us in the first place. Fuck half the cool new nuclear plant designs coming out are literally stuff we were coming up with back in the 60s and then didn't really do anything with (granted some of it wasn't as easily done/cost effective with the technology at the time)

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    America is the true early adopter but now the redesigns are out and were just a fat backwards compatible ps3 waiting for our CD tray to break.

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    Fat PS3 CD tray?

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    Bluray!

    That's how you know I'm old.

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    Homie fat PS3s don't have trays, they have slots

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    Can confirm, my fat PS3 is still sitting in my office, gloriously playing PSX/PS2 games.

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    I'm using the word to describe the entire device sitting inside the fat ps3 that keeps the device running, isnt really necessary for the thing to work but you keep it around cause it enables the really cool feature you like for this specific version of the democracy you like because it does cool things like move wealth from the..wait what was I talking about again?

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    My dad took my backwards ps3 with him on a long vacation for movies and games. I was working at the time so I didnt go, but it returned with the board bend by the power button and broken, and the hdmi port in the back is busted. Idk if itll ever be fixable, but I still have it to this day just in case.

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    My old fatty got the red light and wouldn't turn on, never figured out how to fix it.

    I wanna play Demon's Souls again one day.

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    Really confused on how early voting is going. Half the things I'm seeing is saying it's trouble for the GOP, but the other half is saying they are winning in the swing states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daydreamer View Post
    Really confused on how early voting is going. Half the things I'm seeing is saying it's trouble for the GOP, but the other half is saying they are winning in the swing states.
    Best to completely ignore reports based on the early vote.

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    What I have heard is that the GOP also promoted absentee/early voting this year.

    This would be great if true. Typically they are the road blocks to more convenient voting.

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