Loki (D+) - June 9, 2021

**Anoat** · 2021-06-24 08:17

Originally Posted by Dantrag

But the infinity stones only work in their own universe, if he grab one and went into a different time line they'd be useless, unless it's all the same universe(w/e I cant keep track of the rules anymore lol).

What

Avengers Endgame they pulled all the stones from different timelines and they all worked when brought to the regular timeline

**Anoat** · 2021-06-24 08:19

Biggest clue something weird was up with the TVA is that everyone that works there seems to be humans from earth. No Kree or any other number of aliens that have been introduced in the MCU. Highly convenient.

**Tyrath** · 2021-06-24 08:24

Different timelines are not different universes btw.

**Salodin** · 2021-06-24 08:49

Never seeing him actually put the time stone away in ep1 is def making me wonder if he's got one or more stones on him...

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**Anoat** · 2021-06-24 09:13

Yep called that a few pages ago, when they make a point to show him picking it up but not putting it back that’s an easy assumption to make.

But also could be SUBVERTED EXPECTATIONS striking again so who knows

**Zealot** · 2021-06-24 09:14

To be honest this episode made several really big statements but their presentation was such that you kind of have to watch again to think about them.

1) the TVA is all variants, which means the Time Keepers are all lying, which likely means Ravonna has been lying about either knowing that the Time Keepers are doing or lying on their behalf because she's in on it

2) Loki either has powers that include telekinesis (not demonstrated before) or he stole at least one Infinity Stone from the TVA and is actively using it

3) We don't know how much Sylvie is lying about any given thing, including how her powers work or if she's used them on Loki. Everything after she touched Loki in the TVA might be fake, being told "it's harder the stronger the mind" sounds like exactly what Loki would want to hear to not question that it was all real.

But all of those things came about so briefly in the episode that they didn't really hit you with the impact and implications at first.

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**Salodin** · 2021-06-24 09:21

There's so many "it could have been at this moment!" moments that I don't know which is real or fake, or if multiple are real then who is currently in the advantage lol. Guess it's actually just a good show

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**Anoat** · 2021-06-24 12:19

Surprised no one has mentioned Loki’s homage to his brother’s taste for Mountain Dew when he smashed the glass and yelled ANOTHER!

**Tyrath** · 2021-06-24 12:54

I noticed that and loved it lol

**Kanriel** · 2021-06-24 13:03

Originally Posted by Zealot

I will say I've never seen an episode of Doctor Who but I imagine this is what it feels like.

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Yes, actually. Most of the best Who episodes all have a feel kinda like ep 3 of Loki. Though I'm a few seasons behind on Who so dunno about current stuff.

**kuronosan** · 2021-06-24 22:21

Originally Posted by Dantrag

But the infinity stones only work in their own universe, if he grab one and went into a different time line they'd be useless, unless it's all the same universe(w/e I cant keep track of the rules anymore lol).

Errr, Endgame?

**Uzor** · 2021-06-25 18:47

Originally Posted by kuronosan

Errr, Endgame?

It's a bit of a paradox I guess, but it was essentially "the same" timeline since the stones were returned where they were stolen from? So nothing changed. It never became a diverging timeline, but it did create a new potential timeline in which the stone were never returned, but that's a separate one than the one they were in.

**Kaslo** · 2021-06-25 18:56

Originally Posted by Uzor

It's a bit of a paradox I guess, but it was essentially "the same" timeline since the stones were returned where they were stolen from? So nothing changed. It never became a diverging timeline, but it did create a new potential timeline in which the stone were never returned, but that's a separate one than the one they were in.

Is it a paradox, OR DOES IT ONLY NOT WORK INSIDE THE TVA?

**Takiwaki** · 2021-06-25 18:58

Originally Posted by Kaslo

Is it a paradox, OR DOES IT ONLY NOT WORK INSIDE THE TVA?

AFAIK, its only the TVA. The TVA seems to exist outside of the actual timeline it oversees, or whatever technology governs the TVA has its own rules. Hence Magic not being able to work there either but can outside.

**Takiwaki** · 2021-06-25 19:03

Originally Posted by Anoat

What

Avengers Endgame they pulled all the stones from different timelines and they all worked when brought to the regular timeline

Technically they kept the stones within the same tlmeline and brought them back before any branches can cause a "new timeline/altnerate universe". They pulled the stones from different points of the same timeline.

Originally Posted by Uzor

It's a bit of a paradox I guess, but it was essentially "the same" timeline since the stones were returned where they were stolen from? So nothing changed. It never became a diverging timeline, but it did create a new potential timeline in which the stone were never returned, but that's a separate one than the one they were in.

No Paradox, no potential new timeline, this is why the TVA didnt interfere.

This time shit is annoying.

**NotGreyheim** · 2021-06-25 22:32

Originally Posted by NotGreyheim

Motherfuckers never learn their lesson and keep trying to make logical sense of time travel instead of just switching your brain off for 45 minutes and enjoying yourself.

**Kachiko** · 2021-06-26 02:20

Could have sworn they said Infinity Wars time travel was supposed to happen, in the unified timeline the TVA is overseeing.

**Serra** · 2021-06-26 06:45

Originally Posted by Takiwaki

Technically they kept the stones within the same tlmeline and brought them back before any branches can cause a "new timeline/altnerate universe". They pulled the stones from different points of the same timeline.

No Paradox, no potential new timeline, this is why the TVA didnt interfere.

This time shit is annoying.

There were multiple new timelines created though -- one from Loki taking the Tesseract (which was reset), one from Thanos leaving the past and dying, and one from Cap going to the past and living with Peggy.

Until we get some evidence the TVA is worth trusting, the whole one timeline thing is probably not worth believing.

**kuronosan** · 2021-06-26 07:09

Which makes you wonder if Cap going back was supposed to happen.

**Takiwaki** · 2021-06-26 16:04

Originally Posted by Serra

There were multiple new timelines created though -- one from Loki taking the Tesseract (which was reset), one from Thanos leaving the past and dying, and one from Cap going to the past and living with Peggy.

Until we get some evidence the TVA is worth trusting, the whole one timeline thing is probably not worth believing.

Like I said this time shit is annoying lol. The Thanos one is a pretty good point though defintely a new timeline when that happened.

I think Cap going to the past isnt really a new timeline, we really dont know anything about Peggys past enough to think that he changed it from the original. He could have been there all along.

Agreed that the MCU TVA isnt what it seems.

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