Loki (D+) - June 9, 2021

[Vaspinne]

Here comes Milkster with his "I hate everything about this and it's all stupid and you all enjoying this for what it is is stupid too" opinion

[Milkster]

And in return come the nerds who think any critic of something means you hate it and that you can't enjoy something while also having opinions on it.

[Vaspinne]

Honestly I didn't even read your post, I just know you complain about every minimal little nitpicky thing in every movie thread you post in and just assumed your post in this one was the same ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Milkster]

So you assumed and made an ass out of yourself.

[Vaspinne]

Did I though?

[Milkster]

Yeah.

[Vaspinne]

I'd open that YouTube video but I don't want my perfect hololive catered YouTube algorithm to get fucked

[kuronosan]

Nah Milk you're way off base. It's established in canon that magic does not work at the TVA, which means the stones have no power there.

Therefore the infinite power they contain cannot actually exert itself or explode normal humans.

[Malithar]

I'm a little confused by the whole one timeline thing.

Clearly there are other timelines where variant loki's get pretty far in before the TVA steps in, such as gator loki or old man loki. One timeline implies one universe and no multiverse as a multiverse stems from multiple timelines (or is this somehow not the case?).

According to the sacred timeline, Loki is supposed to die to Thanos, and as such how does old man Loki even get as far as being an old man before the TVA comes knocking?

I took it to mean there have always been, and always will be, a multiverse. The TVA didn't stop the multiverse from existing, they just pruned any branches that deviated from the sacred timeline, to ensure all followed the same order.

Edit: Should read the whole thread to catchup, Zealot beat me.

[Boyiee]

Grab a few sets from the drawer, port out, wish Kang to have never existed.

[Xno Kappa]

Grab a few sets from the drawer, port out, wish Kang to have never existed.

You’d still only be able to erase the Kang of that universe. And that’s if you collected the right stones since again, they only work in their own universe.

Can’t just grab a power stone from universe C-137 and expect to work in universe 616.

[Souj]

Grab a few sets from the drawer, port out, wish Kang to have never existed.

The tricky part with this is; do they work in only the same timeline/universe the originated from?
And also, Kang isn’t born until the 31st century. But also, Kang is a time traveler. So does that mean that even though a nexus even happens in lets say 5 B.C., Kang immediately comes into existence because that timeline, if left alone, would eventually reach the 31st century and then Kang would exist and create time travel and then is able to travel to 5 b.c. even though that new universe only existed for a whole 10 seconds? I’m assuming that’s how it works, otherwise there wouldn’t be some huge rush to nip timelines immediately.

[Kaslo]

Can’t just grab a power stone from universe C-137 and expect to work in universe 616.

That's not been established.

[Guitarman]

Yeah what Kalso said. It works that way in the comics, but the MCU isn't following them 1:1, so it's up in the air. Stones could work anywhere, we don't know.

[Salodin]

My only gripe is they never explained Loki's weird new set of powers. He clearly had a time reversal ability back on the planet he and Sylvie almost died on. Maybe they can hand wave that as telekinesis, but then him having telekinesis is also a big wtf. He seems to just be given whatever ability he needs to move the plot along. Wish they explained it, or just kept him consistent.

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[Xno Kappa]

Yeah what Kalso said. It works that way in the comics, but the MCU isn't following them 1:1, so it's up in the air. Stones could work anywhere, we don't know.

Derp. I could’ve sworn this was established in the MCU but I might be getting confused with something else.

[Souj]

My only gripe is they never explained Loki's weird new set of powers. He clearly had a time reversal ability back on the planet he and Sylvie almost died on. Maybe they can hand wave that as telekinesis, but then him having telekinesis is also a big wtf. He seems to just be given whatever ability he needs to move the plot along. Wish they explained it, or just kept him consistent.

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Magic.

[Kanriel]

Yeah, magic. Loki is a very powerful magician (as was stated in this series...multiple times across multiple Loki's) he just only generally prefers certain types of magic, so we usually only see those.

[Milkster]

When Loki uses magic or any of his powers there's a green glow or after effect. There wasn't either of those when he stopped the building from falling and put it back in place. Also most of Loki's magic is illusions. He's never physically affected something that large before in the MCU.

[Salodin]

Yeahhhh

This "magic" is way different than what he's been doing for over a decade at this point and while I'm not averse to him leveling up, for him to just level up entirely new classes of abilities is weird. Not a deal breaker, but for a decade they've been very good at explaining supes/villains powers and power ups as they come, so Loki just gaining multiple new types of abilities and the only explanation is "I think we're a lot stronger than we think" as old Loki just uses the same illusion power he's always had, just larger, idk it just seems like a swing and a miss. Dude hints at a larger battery for his illusions, gained enchantments, and apparently gained telekinesis all in the span of a day or two and it just seems kinda unearned.

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