Loki (D+) - June 9, 2021

[Anoat]

So I’ll have to rewatch it but the scene where Loki found the drawer full of Infinity Stones, he clearly picks up the Time Stone but they don’t really show him put it back. I’m thinking he might have pocketed it and that’s going to come in to play again later.

[Anoat]

Head scratcher here though. If everything the Avengers did was *supposed to happen* as we are led to believe, then Loki was *supposed to* vanish with the Tesseract, otherwise Cap & Tony would have no need to jump again to take the Tesseract from the army base and get more Pym particles.

[Kaslo]

Not necessarily, they were suppose to fail to get the Tesseract there, but Loki wasn't suppose to get it either. Likely OG Avengers were suppose to recover the Tesserect and Future Avengers lost their opportunity.

[Salodin]

Head scratcher here though. If everything the Avengers did was *supposed to happen* as we are led to believe, then Loki was *supposed to* vanish with the Tesseract, otherwise Cap & Tony would have no need to jump again to take the Tesseract from the army base and get more Pym particles.

The TVA says he was supposed to be arrested and taken to Odinville to participate in his mother's death which was the character development he and Thor needed to lead better lives up until he dies at the hands of Thanos.

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[Kaslo]

It also means that Cap was suppose to go back in time and fuck Peggy and have 2 kids.

[Serra]

So I’ll have to rewatch it but the scene where Loki found the drawer full of Infinity Stones, he clearly picks up the Time Stone but they don’t really show him put it back. I’m thinking he might have pocketed it and that’s going to come in to play again later.

They show him pick it up, and they don't show him put it back down, but there's definitely a sound as if he dropped it.

It also means that Cap was suppose to go back in time and fuck Peggy and have 2 kids.

Which, again, how are they okay with that alternate timeline??

[Kaslo]

Which, again, how are they okay with that alternate timeline??

That happens in every timeline, so there exists a Steve that went back to the MCU timeline and had a life with Peggy. In Winter Soldier its left very ambiguous who her husband was, but Peggy does mention that "Steve was changing my life even after his 'death'"

[Anoat]

In that scene Peggy marvels at how Steve looks so young and the audience attributes it to her dementia buuuuut there is the theory that Steve really did grow old with her and when she sees young Steve again she thinks it’s “her” Steve.

[Serra]

That happens in every timeline, so there exists a Steve that went back to the MCU timeline and had a life with Peggy. In Winter Soldier its left very ambiguous who her husband was, but Peggy does mention that "Steve was changing my life even after his 'death'"

At no point did they establish Harry Potter rules for time travel (if anything, they did the opposite), so that doesn't hold up.

Peggy also says something along the lines of "he saved the man who would go on to be my husband," before that line, sooooo.. And what about Sharon, did she never meet "Uncle Steve?" And even if you ignore that part, do we ignore her flirting with/kissing her uncle?

[Kaslo]

At no point did they establish Harry Potter rules for time travel (if anything, they did the opposite), so that doesn't hold up.

Peggy also says something along the lines of "he saved the man who would go on to be my husband," before that line, sooooo.. And what about Sharon, did she never meet "Uncle Steve?" And even if you ignore that part, do we ignore her flirting with/kissing her uncle?

Except the TVA does establish HP rules, by eliminating any timeline that deviates from the true timeline.

[Salodin]

At no point did they establish Harry Potter rules for time travel (if anything, they did the opposite), so that doesn't hold up.

Peggy also says something along the lines of "he saved the man who would go on to be my husband," before that line, sooooo.. And what about Sharon, did she never meet "Uncle Steve?" And even if you ignore that part, do we ignore her flirting with/kissing her uncle?

As long as you assume Rodgers made out with his daughter/family member, nothing is inconsistent with a prime time "thread", and the timelines created and destroyed by the avengers are just fibers rolled into that thread.

Or they're not, and the TVA erases all those extra timelines, including the ones they expect the avengers to make with their shenanigans. Still though, nothing inconsistent.

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[Xno Kappa]

The Sacred Timeline is just a convenient plot device. I wouldn't rake my brain over trying to make sense out of all the inconsistencies.

[Koyangi]

Dang, we can just never enjoy anything, can we?

[Xno Kappa]

Dang, we can just never enjoy anything, can we?

This whole series will suck if I don't get one "Wow."

[Serra]

Except the TVA does establish HP rules, by eliminating any timeline that deviates from the true timeline.

The TVA establishes that there are timeline deviations that are clipped, whereas there are no timeline deviations under HP rules. Having an entity that removes branches is not the same as not having branches.

We've seen events play out differently in the MCU (Quill getting the power stone versus Rhodey knocking him out and Cap returning the stone to him, for instance), so it is not HP rules.

[Xno Kappa]

Okay so wtf is HP rules ya freaking nerds?

[NotGreyheim]

Motherfuckers never learn their lesson and keep trying to make logical sense of time travel instead of just switching your brain off for 45 minutes and enjoying yourself.

[Cail]

So I’ll have to rewatch it but the scene where Loki found the drawer full of Infinity Stones, he clearly picks up the Time Stone but they don’t really show him put it back. I’m thinking he might have pocketed it and that’s going to come in to play again later.

Honestly, same thing occurred to me as well

[Serra]

Okay so wtf is HP rules ya freaking nerds?

There's one timeline, no original timeline, etc. The best example is when the Patronus saves Harry and Sirius from the Dementors -- the time traveling Harry was always the one who cast it and there was no original timeline where there wasn't someone there to save them.

[Xno Kappa]

I think I’ll continue to have never watched Harry Potter.