Final Fantasy XIV: Shadowbringers

[Gokulo]

Wonder if you get exp when using trusts, because that would be a good leveling tool until deep dungeon is released.

[Kaisha]

Looking like a WHM+AST meta to me from initial impressions of the changed toolkits. SCH got hit so fricken' hard, which is going to make it rather boring for me to play while AST now has more toys to plate-spin at the least.

[Dotsudoku]

competition is gonna be between WHM and AST, not SCH. WHM's raw DPS vs AST's buffs

SCH OGCD heal toolkit is gonna be wild

[octopus]

I don't see Scholar's place changing in the meta. The fairy still auto heals and indom/excog is still busted good utility.

It's much less fun to play though.

[Dotsudoku]

soil's gonna be even more powerful than indom now, too

[Gokulo]

I don't see Scholar's place changing in the meta. The fairy still auto heals and indom/excog is still busted good utility.

It's much less fun to play though.

Auto heal was nerfed though, it's less than a regen tick.

[Dotsudoku]

still an auto-heal that doesn't require GCD, in addition to their expanded OGCD healing kit

might not be as fun, but SCH isn't going anywhere

[Prothescar]

Why are Inner Beast and Steel Cyclone still in the game if they're just worse versions of Decimate and Fell Cleave now

[Takiwaki]

Why are Inner Beast and Steel Cyclone still in the game if they're just worse versions of Decimate and Fell Cleave now

Cus they get replaced by them at higher levels!. dat progression! lol (they resuse the animations for them for the new super skills though)

[Alkar]

SCH's healing kit is probably the best in the game right now, it's not going anywhere as a job. It'll simply be a snoozefest unless there's a lot of damage going out because they can't do anything but heal.

[Dotsudoku]

if it's a snoozefest it's because of a simplified DPS rotation, not because they're limited to healing. their kit will allow them to DPS more than any other healer

[Indalecia]

That about sums it up. It's still probably the best kit but is going to be boring as fuck to play now.

[Prothescar]

You mean pressing 1 button for 70%+ of your inputs over a 10-13m fight isn't engaging?

[Dotsudoku]

I mean there's no getting around them neutering the complexity of their DPS kit, and I feel bad for anyone who played it specifically for that, but people have enjoyed WHM 5ever and it's always been this speed

[Indalecia]

But people that didn't like WHM played SCH/AST. But now we're being dragged down to WHM's oh-so-engaging level.

[Prothescar]

Superbolide is fucking stupid now that we have raw comparisons by the way. Objectively inferior Hallowed Ground.

8s duration vs 10s
Reduces HP to 1 vs no HP reduction
420s recast vs 420s

[Alkar]

But people that didn't like WHM played SCH/AST. But now we're being dragged down to WHM's oh-so-engaging level.

Yeah, that was the point really. WHM was the simple healer, SCH had the more complex DPS rotation and resource management and AST had to deal with cards. Now they're all WHM with slightly different flavors so anyone who didn't enjoy WHM's style has no real reason to stick around in the healer slot and will probably go DPS instead (RDM and DNC will probably fill that support/DPS niche). It's a shame really, they can't seem to figure out how to balance healers without making them all the same.

[Raldo]

Superbolide is fucking stupid now that we have raw comparisons by the way. Objectively inferior Hallowed Ground.

8s duration vs 10s
Reduces HP to 1 vs no HP reduction
420s recast vs 420s

I agree, however, similar to the "potencies listed may still be in the process of being tweaked" statements. I suspect various durations/cooldowns also are in flux. Take them with a grain of salt.

[Dotsudoku]

at this point I'd treat the framework as accurate and virtually nothing else. we already know of a couple discrepancies between the media event build and the more recent job action video build

[Azat]

There are a lot of healers who complained about having to focus on dps was too difficult. So they all moved to whm and they were shocked to learn setups didn't want whm. Insert complain some more and SE had to do something to appease the masses.

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