2020 Democratic Primary Clown Car Special: 560 days of this bullshit.

[Tyrath]

Why do prisoners deserve these social services when we can't be assed to pay our teachers better or shrink class sizes.

"We're failing group A so group B deserves nothing" never quite jives with me as a good reason.

We should be doing both.

[Xno Kappa]

Resources are finite. If its a matter of priority...

[Tyrath]

Shut up Thanos.

[Tyrath]

It's one thing to prioritize things in order. It's entirely different to start with claims of "why do so and so deserve anything"

[Kaslo]

Just gonna leave this here

[Tyche]

Medical treatment in prison should be required when medically necessary. Reassignment surgery is rarely medically necessary for dysphoria. Less invasive treatments are first-line.

[Xno Kappa]

Medical treatment in prison should be required when medically necessary. Reassignment surgery is rarely medically necessary for dysphoria. Less invasive treatments are first-line.

So what you're saying is, Kamala Harris 2020!

[Tyche]

What I'm saying is that we aren't doing shoulder surgery for someone with shoulder pain just because they are requesting to have shoulder surgery. There's other shit we can try first. -Harris 2020

[Fiye]

Medical treatment in prison should be required when medically necessary. Reassignment surgery is rarely medically necessary for dysphoria. Less invasive treatments are first-line.

No disagreements here with this.

But Kamala Harris shouldn't have been the one saying no.

[Tyche]

No disagreements here with this.

But Kamala Harris shouldn't have been the one saying no.

Her argument in the case was that HRT and counseling made the reassignment surgery medically unnecessary. Which is a legitimate and logical argument to make and one that should be sorted out in court, as it was.

[Fiye]

Her argument in the case was that HRT and counseling made the reassignment surgery medically unnecessary. Which is a legitimate and logical argument to make and one that should be sorted out in court, as it was.

A case that she appealed and lost.

[Tyrath]

Sooo system was working eh??

[Fiye]

but to reiterate she is far better than the garbage currently infesting the administration and her record is pretty good otherwise.



If i were still in my ass woulda been gone.

[Tyche]

A case that she appealed and lost.

Ok, so? You act like she had some kind of blanket view that prisoners shouldn't be afforded gender reassignment surgery, and that's not the case. California regs prohibit treatment that's not medically necessary. Gender reassignment is rarely medically necessary. She represented the state in a case in which the state had a good argument. They ultimately lost, but you act as if it was just outlandish. She brought a reasonable case.

[Fiye]

Ok, so? You act like she had some kind of blanket view that prisoners shouldn't be afforded gender reassignment surgery, and that's not the case. California regs prohibit treatment that's not medically necessary. Gender reassignment is rarely medically necessary. She represented the state in a case in which the state had a good argument. They ultimately lost, but you act as if it was just outlandish. She brought a reasonable case.

But then it leads to a question of why this and not the OneWest banking (Steve Mnuchin).

Sorry fam. Not gonna back her unless she's the last one standing.

[Zealot]

I would vote for Harris.

[Salodin]

Of everyone's who's announced, Harris is my front runner. Sorry Fiye, shoulders come before gender reassignment.

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[Zealot]

Here's my calculus;

Is gender reassignment surgery being a covered medical expense more or less likely to stem from the path society will follow with
A) Kamala Harris
or
B) Donald Trump.

[archibaldcrane]

But then it leads to a question of why this and not the OneWest banking (Steve Mnuchin).

Sorry fam. Not gonna back her unless she's the last one standing.

You'd take Biden over Harris?

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[kuronosan]

Reassignment surgery is elective.

Period.