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    Quote Originally Posted by Andalusian girls View Post
    it's almost like no voting system prevents the election of rotten candidates
    Exactly. My point was that no system is perfect, but one or two bad results is not a reason to give up on better solutions.

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    Also I hear our dear leader is having another off the rails press briefing. Can't watch at work so can't confirm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zetanio View Post
    They are definitely not the same. The outer edges are the same brand of idiot in different packaging but the roots of each are vastly different now. I do love the hate for centrists though. God forbid people want to get things done. I think splitting things into 4-5 parties would lead to some odd and ultimately beneficial pairings on a lot of issues.
    I can't recall where I read it but I read a very convincing article at some point that anything more than 2 parties is mathematically impossible and the only time more exist is during a transition period while one party cannibalizes another party. (I mean more than 2 politically viable parties)

    Lets just get rid of all political parties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoobernut View Post
    I can't recall where I read it but I read a very convincing article at some point that anything more than 2 parties is mathematically impossible and the only time more exist is during a transition period while one party cannibalizes another party. (I mean more than 2 politically viable parties)

    Lets just get rid of all political parties.
    There's a lot of similar articles on such on the subject and this is the one I usually point people to.



    edit I can never remember how to embed

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoobernut View Post
    I can't recall where I read it but I read a very convincing article at some point that anything more than 2 parties is mathematically impossible and the only time more exist is during a transition period while one party cannibalizes another party. (I mean more than 2 politically viable parties)

    Lets just get rid of all political parties.
    In a first past the post system, the system always stabilizes around two because whichever side is divided into two factions loses enough to eventually motivate them to cast a wider tent.

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    skroob is a tool, vote snrub!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuri-G View Post
    skroob is a tool, vote snrub!
    And with that I just learned his name was an anagram of Brooks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuronosan View Post
    And with that I just learned his name was an anagram of Brooks.
    and I just learned snrub was an anagram of burns, mind blown

    HOW DID I NEVER KNOW THIS

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    You scrubs, it's a semordnilap of Brooks and Burns

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    We can do things to harden our electoral system against manipulation in the short term, but the long term solution is to invest in social services (including public education) so that we have fewer idiots in the future. Currently I would say the country is about 90% idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    We can do things to harden our electoral system against manipulation in the short term, but the long term solution is to invest in social services (including public education) so that we have fewer idiots in the future. Currently I would say the country is about 90% idiot.
    For certain politicians (like Trump) they rely on people being stupod to vote for them. I doubt they want the population to become smarter as rhey’d lose voters. Trump wants to be rhe smartest gug in the room, which says a lot because he’s far from smart.

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    I understand that Republicans have been consciously moving us towards oligarchy for the last 30-40 years. The terrible part is that much of the damage done by their mismanagement cannot be undone. We could have continued developing as a nation, but we failed to provide adequate nutrition, medical care, and education. Now those critical periods have passed for two generations of Americans.

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    More reach than Mr. Fantastic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaslo View Post


    More reach than Mr. Fantastic.
    It still amazes me that Trump uses offical white house press releases to make shit posts and conspiracy theories posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimmauk View Post
    It still amazes me that Trump uses offical white house press releases to make shit posts and conspiracy theories posts.

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    I love the use of quotes around his name... while talking about "achievements".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimmauk View Post
    It still amazes me that Trump uses offical white house press releases to make shit posts and conspiracy theories posts.
    I hope you know about @realpresssecbot.

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    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46747069

    Trump offers his own version of history of the Soviet-Afghan war, claims he fired Mattis because Mattis didn't do enough for him, & calls out India for building a library in Afghanistan instead of offering more military support.

    For a start he claimed that Moscow had been right to intervene there because terrorists were going into Russia.

    This is of course not only untrue but at variance with the US' settled position which opposed the Soviet intervention.

    The Russians actually moved in to help prop up a friendly regime. In December 1979 Soviet forces seized Kabul to try to bolster the communist government there, installing a new leadership more loyal to Moscow.

    Then Mr Trump said that it was the set-backs in Afghanistan that had essentially destroyed the Soviet Union.

    Afghanistan, he insisted, bankrupted the USSR. Now, the desperate war in Afghanistan certainly did much to tarnish the Soviet Union's reputation.

    But US support for Afghan fighters also played a significant part in humbling the Russian military machine.

    Russia's wider economic problems were due to falling oil prices; the pressures of keeping up with the US in the Cold War; and the impact of a partial liberalisation of the economy.
    He had done a lot for Mr Mattis, Mr Trump said, getting the Pentagon a significant slice of additional money. "But what's he done for me ?" he asked.

    He described his defence secretary's performance in Afghanistan as "not too good", asserting he was "not happy" with what he'd done there.

    He then claimed he had "essentially" fired him.
    His view was highlighted in an aside about India and its role in Afghanistan.

    India's Prime Minister Narendra Modi had apparently told him that his country had constructed a library in Afghanistan.

    "I don't know who's using it", quipped Mr Trump, "but I don't like being taken advantage of."

    An Indian Government spokesman has responded by noting the "critical role that developmental assistance can play in transforming human lives".

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