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    Quote Originally Posted by Xno Kappa View Post
    I must admit, she has been in rare form thus far against Trumpito.
    I was anti Pelosi but am on board now. For all her flaws, she knows how to handle him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rooney View Post
    I don't like her at all, but she is effective AF and I am more than happy to let her do her thing.
    Legitimate question, what is important to likeability besides effectiveness?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uzor View Post
    With that logic you could say that all murderers kill, so you should not call them out on it because it's in their nature and nothing can be done about it.

    Just because politicians lie does not make it OK for him to tell blatant lies. Throwing your arms up and saying "Oh well, that's just what politicians do" is harmful and will only make the problem worse.
    Quote Originally Posted by kuronosan View Post
    All politicians lie therefore don't hold them to a higher standard.
    Quote Originally Posted by Eurell View Post
    So do you want us to stop calling him out?
    Ya'll defending so hard over a joke/sarcasm its literally absolutely perfect and I couldn't have asked for a more apt response. Like lmao there was no deeper meaning to my statement and ya'll come out blasting both barrels over it thin skin asses always looking for a fight over nothing.

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    having genuine/passionate interest in serving the people you nominally represent and communicating that interest effectively.


    Pelosi is too calculating, too obviously tied to party establishment, which is itself too obviously tied to corporate interests and other such pork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    Ya'll defending so hard over a joke/sarcasm its literally absolutely perfect and I couldn't have asked for a more apt response. Like lmao there was no deeper meaning to my statement and ya'll come out blasting both barrels over it thin skin asses always looking for a fight over nothing.
    Oh man you sure troll us good. So angry right now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurell View Post
    Oh man you sure troll us good. So angry right now
    Funniest part is you think it was an actual troll attempt. Was literally a surface level joke in the exact same vein as the poster directly above my original post. Not my fault you toke bait that wasn't even there lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaneTheBrawler View Post
    having genuine/passionate interest in serving the people you nominally represent and communicating that interest effectively.


    Pelosi is too calculating, too obviously tied to party establishment, which is itself too obviously tied to corporate interests and other such pork.
    This has the assumption that being calculated and sticking to the party's policies doesn't genuinely represent the people that elected her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    Funniest part is you think it was an actual troll attempt. Was literally a surface level joke in the exact same vein as the poster directly above my original post. Not my fault you toke bait that wasn't even there lol.
    As if your joke didn't reek of the same BOTH SIDES nonsense that you constantly put in your non joke posts lol

    No one's fault but your own that your jokes are indistinguishable from your normal posts

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaneTheBrawler View Post
    having genuine/passionate interest in serving the people you nominally represent and communicating that interest effectively.


    Pelosi is too calculating, too obviously tied to party establishment, which is itself too obviously tied to corporate interests and other such pork.
    Why do intentions even matter if she gets the job done. I don't care why she stops Trump (getting re-elected, personal glory, etc.)

    Good intentions don't do shit without legislative ability anyway

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    what has she done exactly that has you all fawning at the hem of her paintsuits

    she got in a sick meme at the SotU to be sure but otherwise, what, didn't cave during the government shutdown when there was 0 appetite within her party to do so? as expected the Democratic House has hitherto proven an effective block to Trumpian ambitions but i do not see evidence of her leadership being especially integral to that function.

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    Pelosi and Schumer were both as obstructionist as possible in 16-18, given the size of the Democratic minority. Now with a majority in the House you'll see the stonewalling become much more effective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurell View Post
    As if your joke didn't reek of the same BOTH SIDES nonsense that you constantly put in your non joke posts lol

    No one's fault but your own that your jokes are indistinguishable from your normal posts
    I mean, it was very clearly a joke post. The sarcasm was so thick it's amazing you guys took it seriously and went off the way you did. It was an alley oop staring Mertron and Karbuncle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gredival View Post
    Pelosi and Schumer were both as obstructionist as possible in 16-18, given the size of the Democratic minority. Now with a majority in the House you'll see the stonewalling become much more effective.
    Are we pretending that Schumer maximized his foot-dragging over confirming Federalist society judges?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gredival View Post
    Legitimate question, what is important to likeability besides effectiveness?
    Legit don't care about likeability. If you can get the job done, I'm going to vote for you. I don't care if everyone despises you. Like I said, as a person I don't like Pelosi. But she is a very effective politician, and I will give credit where it's due.

    Had a house rep that my family knew personally, super nice guy, played with his kids, etc. Very likeable, but never noteworthy. As much I liked him personally, give me Pelosi any day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andalusian girls View Post
    what has she done exactly that has you all fawning at the hem of her paintsuits

    she got in a sick meme at the SotU to be sure but otherwise, what, didn't cave during the government shutdown when there was 0 appetite within her party to do so? as expected the Democratic House has hitherto proven an effective block to Trumpian ambitions but i do not see evidence of her leadership being especially integral to that function.
    C'mon my dude not three months ago you were eye-rolling over people in here gnashing their teeth over the prospect of Pelosi being Speaker because you predicted she would do exactly what she has so far done and be exactly as effective as she has been, now that it's happening and people are saying ok, they overreacted, you want to say it has nothing to do with her? I think you just want to argue with people about Pelosi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zealot View Post
    C'mon my dude not three months ago you were eye-rolling over people in here gnashing their teeth over the prospect of Pelosi being Speaker because you predicted she would do exactly what she has so far done and be exactly as effective as she has been, now that it's happening and people are saying ok, they overreacted, you want to say it has nothing to do with her? I think you just want to argue with people about Pelosi.
    Well he is AG...

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    Was Karbuncle always this terrible or is this a recent thing? I guess someone has to take up the BOTH SIDES mantle now that Day is gone.

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    No he's always been that way. He just doesn't post remotely as often as Day for it to be obvious.

    Also we had peeps like Groogle, Heavencloud, and Zoner to make the worst of the worst really stand out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zealot View Post
    C'mon my dude not three months ago you were eye-rolling over people in here gnashing their teeth over the prospect of Pelosi being Speaker because you predicted she would do exactly what she has so far done and be exactly as effective as she has been, now that it's happening and people are saying ok, they overreacted, you want to say it has nothing to do with her? I think you just want to argue with people about Pelosi.
    i don't recall what you're referring to but sometimes i post after drinking heavily so all things are possible.

    to substance, she just hasn't done much of anything yet. the 116th Congress is all of a month old and has done nothing but squabble over the shutdown. she was part of a solid Democratic wall to be sure, but there was next to no will within her party to give in to Trump. indeed it was Senate, not House, Democrats who rejected the president's most serious offer before he finally gave in. i'm certainly glad she didn't defy the will of her party and cave, and she may well prove everything you hope, but all the yass queeen slayyyy analyses because she clapped at him on twitter, tut tut.

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    if she hammers out an infrastructure bill with Mitch and Donaldo i'll make a twitter and fill it with slay queens ok

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