Genshin Impact (PC/PS5/PS4/NSW/iOS) - Open-World Action RPG - 2020

[Lokus]

Leaking characters is hella bad for a gacha company as it can fuck over their revenue. You end up with people abstaining from pulling a current character because their potential waifu/meta character is up ahead. You can just look at this thread to see how some people held off for Xiao or holding for Ayaka. It does build hype and gets people excited though and acts as carrot on a stick to keep people playing.

Upcoming bosses and just general shit to do though, they should be more forthcoming with that stuff. We did already officially know housing was coming, just not when as they haven't done a road map in a while.

[6souls]

They got to get better in not including so much unreleased content into their updates. Bungie has been decent about only putting content that will be released over the season into their updates.

[Kaslo]

They got to get better in not including so much unreleased content into their updates. Bungie has been decent about only putting content that will be released over the season into their updates.

This stuff is pulled from beta servers I believe, since the beta server is one patch ahead at all times.

[Kachiko]

The only other choice is to just do internal testing, which means a much higher potential for bugs and content unrefined by direct user feedback. If they were smart, they would be Advertising 1.5 content as soon as it's on the Beta servers; all it does would shift their revenue a month, as whales will always whale for what they want, and they'll know what they want. If they release something that nobody wants, then it's a lesson learned.

[Tomiko]

That would be the best idea now that they're doing banner reruns. I can't see long-time whales caring about these banners since they likely already have what they want from them as you mentioned. Upcoming content info will give them something to look forward to. It would also give lower spenders a chance to save money for said content instead of having to hope they have enough extra spending money when the character is finally released.

Edit:

Was reading the Reddit post about it and someone brought up a good point that people would care less about leaks if we had a roadmap. I'm closing in on AR 56 and while I still enjoy the game, I don't really have a whole lot to look forward to outside of daily resin use. I don't think that revealing major content like characters in testing and new locations would be a bad thing to reveal since they can use the smaller events as surprises.

[Obsidian]

It would also give lower spenders a chance to save money for said content instead of having to hope they have enough extra spending money when the character is finally released.

This is the whole reason they don't do it. The entire point of the game is to get people to spend money. They don't tell you what characters are coming because they want you to spend resources on things you like *now* so you'll have to spend money to get things you want later. Being able to "plan" actively works against the gacha system.

[Tomiko]

Free pull resources are so bad in game that "F2P"/Goldfish players are going to save for a character they really like regardless of the current banner. Whales are likely going to spend regardless and account for most of the revenue from what I remember.

If they really wanted to get people to spend money, they would have delayed banner reruns longer. Make them have FOMO that the character leaving won't be back for a year. With the reruns coming back so soon, I no longer feel the need to pull the character right away unless I really want them because they will likely be back in a couple months.

[Prothescar]

Honestly think their content output is horrible. The amount of money they make off of this game can fund an accelerated development cycle so we aren't stuck waiting for a new continent for over half a year (by the time it comes out it will be at least May/June).

This game prints so much money off of dumb normies that have never player a gacha before. I see no excuse for taking so long to put out major content drops other than greed.

[Kaslo]

Honestly think their content output is horrible. The amount of money they make off of this game can fund an accelerated development cycle so we aren't stuck waiting for a new continent for over half a year (by the time it comes out it will be at least May/June).

This game prints so much money off of dumb normies that have never player a gacha before. I see no excuse for taking so long to put out major content drops other than greed.

Current speculation is the new continent will be September. We likely have:

1.5 - Chasm (May to Mid-June)
1.6 - Dendro/Harpstrum? (Mid-June through July)
1.7 - Inazuma Preview/Harpstrum? (August to Mid-September)
2.0 - Inazuma Release (Mid-September through October)

[Prothescar]

Yikes...

[Lokus]

So looking like 1 major region per year + 1-2 smaller zones sprinkled in between. Seems like par for the course for a gacha game cept Genshin lacks meaningful repeatable shit.

[Prothescar]

The allure of this game was that it wasn't "par for the course for a gacha game" though. Just a major shame that they fumbled the endgame and dev cycle so badly.

[Karbuncle]

I dug the game but honestly I'm at the point where I'm just going to wait and see if they eventually cave in a couple years and release a single-player version of this game once it, or at least the first chapter, is "complete". Content cycles too slow to keep me invested and the "endgame" sucks.

[arus2001]

Even if you divorce it from the gacha model, players basing expectation of data mines or even betas always has the potential of backfiring when last minute adjustments tweak something in an undesired direction. Hell, didn't this game already go through that sort of player rage when a released character wasn't as strong as people thought due to shifting some power into unit debuff combos or something?

[Ayn]

With Zhongli, yes.

[Tomiko]

There seems to be some classic BG Drama™ on the content leak side of Genshin:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Imp...ion_lumie_and/

From my understanding, Mihoyo accidentally (?) released the entire 1.5 beta client a few days ago, which is what led to the initial avalanche of 1.5 leaks. After Paimon's twitter announcement, they then accidentally (?) released the whole ass 1.5 developer build (jesus...). The same leakers who initially leaked the entirety of 1.5 have also been sharing the development kit around and putting up public mirrors of it. This is obviously a huge fuck up on Mihoyo's part and probably why they shut down the beta server. Lumie has stated that they deactivated in part because they did not want to be associated with the sharing of the beta client.

To clarify: the 1.5 leaks are not coming from beta testers who have signed NDAs. Mihoyo essentially made it public themselves, and if you understand how/where to look, you can find it.

[Yuri-G]

GS6ACJ775KNV 60 gems do it now

[Yuri-G]

SBNBUK67M37Z 30 primos and some xp

[Obsidian]

SBNBUK67M37Z 30 primos and some xp

Gracias.

[Lokus]

Doesn't seem like Chasm is coming in 1.5, just a couple events like usual. Biggest selling point is housing and based on the leaks I've seen, looks robust and somewhat similar to how it works in FFXIV, at least the inside. Seems like we get a fairly decent chunk of land to place buildings on. So 2 new characters, 1 new weekly boss (big fat choonky dragon), 1 new elite boss (Cryo Hypostasis), possible Zhongli rerun, and Housing.

Can't stress how badly MHY fucked up by accidently releasing their own dev build of 1.5 lol. People are doing some wild shit with it.