Genshin Impact (PC/PS5/PS4/NSW/iOS) - Open-World Action RPG - 2020

[Obsidian]

Oh, I don't have Hu Tao either, I knew I was forgetting someone. Just not a fun playstyle to me.

[Kachiko]

Eula is an easy recommend; C0 and she auto's for 7K- 13K crits with Superconduct and Zhong-li's debuff; add a Bennett ult, pop her ult, and nothing lives. I actually feel pigeon-holed into her because of what she can do, especially if it's Raiden who's flexing for Superconduct.

I don't think I can recommend Childe, unless you get his C1, but he certainly has his uses then. I don't have Ganyu, Hu Yao, or Xaio, so I can't comment, but with C2 Jean Venti, and C5 Sucrose, I guess I don't really need him.

[Obsidian]

Childe's C1 isn't as important as I originally thought it was, just because his best team comp is the taser setup with Beidou/Fischl and usually an Anemo character, and the setup usually takes long enough to offset the cooldown on his E. It's a fun team comp but it really relies on C6 for Fischl and C2 for Beidou.

[Kanriel]

Yeah I have Eula and she's pretty solid. Made me push to R5 the BP claymore for her. I haven't been able to reach the silly Q burst damage I saw before I YOLO'd to pull her, but she does absolutely disgusting normal attacks.

Ganyu I 100% recommend for anyone. If she gets a repeat, you want Ganyu. I don't care for any other bow user in the game aside from sub DPS Fischl (E/Q use only) and Venti Q, but Ganyu is a bow user that is just amazing to use and plays different from every other unit.

Xiao is also a ton of fun, I don't think I can recommend him as much as Ganyu, but I have him C1 and he is a wonderful unit for travelling around. With Zhong Li, Venti and Xiao, you can 'brute force' your way through a number of environmental effects that the casuals simply cannot.

My girlfriend has Childe, he's a solid unit, and water DPS is lacking for most people, but I have a C3 Mona on my account and water just isn't a useful enough element to need 2 water DPS. Mona is much better in a subDPS role as well, Childe basically has to be the main DPS of a team as once he uses his E he's stuck for a bit and then has a cooldown, can't just swap back and forth. I guess like Eula but more restricted.

[Kaslo]

I want to save for Ganyu because I have an Amos Bow... but I already have 2 cryo 5* DPS: Ayaka and Eula...

[Kanriel]

I don't really consider Eula a cryo DPS, she's a phys DPS that can trigger cyro based debuffs. But there's content that will buff phys or cryo damage that come around here and there, and clearly which char you use determines how good each is.

Also note that Ganyu is also the most effective ranged and AOE dps in the game. Her damage can be done from a very far range, against flying targets, and her AOE is significantly easier to aim than any other units. And Amos bow also works perfectly with her. I highly recommend you get Ganyu even with Ayaka and Eula.

[Yuri-G]

I want to save for Ganyu because I have an Amos Bow... but I already have 2 cryo 5* DPS: Ayaka and Eula...

You do you! There is not a lot of reason to have both Ganyu and Ayaka but as has been said, Ganyu's AoE is a lot stronger and her ranged capabilities are nice.

At the end of the day nothing matters outside of Abyss. I've been using Xinyan a lot for world exploration because claymore + pyro is a fantastic combination on the world map. Is she good? No lol. But she does well enough and is a lot of fun to use.

Xiao is fun as fuck, btw. Definitely agreed on that. He isn't quite the Ayaka/Hu Tao/Ganyu tier but he's close

Childe is underrated imo, he gets a bad rap but he's not a hypercarry is the thing. He is a team player and does well in that capacity. For example, he does amazing paired with Beidou. I don't have C1 and to be honest I notice it, it is a big improvement, but he's still just fine without it

[Ayn]

Albedo's underrated; I love having him around.

Ganyu.. I'm tempted, but I'm just so eh on bow users. Though Yoimiya was fun.

[Kanriel]

Albedo's underrated; I love having him around.

Ganyu.. I'm tempted, but I'm just so eh on bow users. Though Yoimiya was fun.

As I said, I hated bow users in this game...until Ganyu. She doesn't play the same, aimed shots are so strong, and feel more like playing a ranger character in other games. And she also makes you appreciate shield generating characters even more. Basically shield unit + Ganyu = who cares what the other 2 are.

[Obsidian]

Albedo's underrated; I love having him around.

Ganyu.. I'm tempted, but I'm just so eh on bow users. Though Yoimiya was fun.

He's underrated I think for people who like Geo, but if you don't have a Geo team set up he's kinda bunk.

If you like Yoimiya you probably won't like Ganyu. Yoimiya is a normal attack spammer, Ganyu is slow charge shot gameplay. And because of that, you probably want a shielder (Diona, Zhongli) to pair with her so you're not constantly knocked out of aiming. Hits like a freight train though.

[Ayn]

I've used her a few times with that one event.

I do actually have Zhongli and C6 Diona, so could probably make it work.

Is Aloy a budget Ganyu, or not even close?

[Obsidian]

From the limited amount of her I've seen, Aloy is just a burst bot, her E is a bit clunky and her autos suffer for it and can't touch Ganyu's charged shot damage anyway. A nice sub/support DPS if you need a Cryo character that fills that roll but not really a good stand-in for Ganyu.

Also talk of Yoimiya reminded me I don't have her either. I've skipped every Pyro 5* thus far. They'll have to pry Diluc from my cold dead hands.

[Kanriel]

Man, I know I'm going to be tempted to pull on Kokomi for stupid reasons, so I go to check her talent setup, and it's not just her weapon that decreases crit chance, she has a passive that gives her -100% crit chance. And part of why I would pull for her is because I have a 2nd 5* catalyst, but only use 1 catalyst character...except the 2nd catalyst I have is the fucking crit rate one, which means the entire substat is entirely pointless for Kokomi. And that just bugs me. I know they seem to have worked around that by giving her a crazy high multiplier on attacks (her normal attack is roughly 2x the damage as Mona's at even levels), and I guess ignoring crit entirely makes her easier to gear, but going through the game to make sets intentionally to ignore crit just feels so weird lol

Edit: Watching some more videos going over and fuck, I'm gonna pull for her and her weapon. Not spending money for it, but will toss whatever currency I get at it.

[The Stig]

Question, been working on my teapot, and I can unlock a second realm (map) now.

If I build up that map and the 3rd one, would it triple my silver currency generation?

[Kanriel]

AFAIK no, the only reason to build up other layouts is 1) Achievement and 2) Cause you want to

[Obsidian]

Man, I know I'm going to be tempted to pull on Kokomi for stupid reasons, so I go to check her talent setup, and it's not just her weapon that decreases crit chance, she has a passive that gives her -100% crit chance. And part of why I would pull for her is because I have a 2nd 5* catalyst, but only use 1 catalyst character...except the 2nd catalyst I have is the fucking crit rate one, which means the entire substat is entirely pointless for Kokomi. And that just bugs me. I know they seem to have worked around that by giving her a crazy high multiplier on attacks (her normal attack is roughly 2x the damage as Mona's at even levels), and I guess ignoring crit entirely makes her easier to gear, but going through the game to make sets intentionally to ignore crit just feels so weird lol

Edit: Watching some more videos going over and fuck, I'm gonna pull for her and her weapon. Not spending money for it, but will toss whatever currency I get at it.

I'm gonna laugh real hard when the optimal build for her ends up just being to stack 150% crit rate to counteract her passive.

[Kanriel]

I'm gonna laugh real hard when the optimal build for her ends up just being to stack 150% crit rate to counteract her passive.

I kinda doubt it with how she does scale with HP and healing bonus. And it'll be absolutely insane to get to 150% crit rate without the char itself having crit rate as their main ascension stat. I think she'll be solid for removing fire shields and heals. And also she'll work perfectly for how I like my healers, being the sturdiest unit on the field (aside from Zhong Li).

[Obsidian]

I kinda doubt it with how she does scale with HP and healing bonus. And it'll be absolutely insane to get to 150% crit rate without the char itself having crit rate as their main ascension stat. I think she'll be solid for removing fire shields and heals. And also she'll work perfectly for how I like my healers, being the sturdiest unit on the field (aside from Zhong Li).

I think it is doable but you'd need the 4 piece Blizzard Strayer and Cryo resonance to get there, on top of really good substats, and maybe Rosaria's passive.

[Kanriel]

I think it is doable but you'd need the 4 piece Blizzard Strayer and Cryo resonance to get there, on top of really good substats, and maybe Rosaria's passive.

Yeah, but you'd lose so many other stats by giving up HP/HP scaling, you'd lose the 15% 2pc bonus, and would only have meh crit dmg. Don't think it's viable at all.

[The Stig]

AFAIK no, the only reason to build up other layouts is 1) Achievement and 2) Cause you want to

Thanks, I'll leave it alone then!