Iran - It's Not Just Hostages and Arms Deals Anymore

[Tymon]

It's just a reminder to the world that despite the dystopian cringefest we have in the WH right now there is still very much a reason why all of these world leaders constantly try to placate Trump and improve geopolitical relations.

If the US military decides you're done. You are done.

[archibaldcrane]

*unless you are the Taliban

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[Xno Kappa]

Maybe if you want to place the collapse of the ANA on the US.

[Byrthnoth]

Imo there is a difference between _you_ being done and us successfully enforcing our preferred method of government afterwards and making sure your successors don't come into power.

[Outlaw]

I guess we have leadership now that was finally dumb enough to listen to Bibi.

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[Meresgi]

the show of military speed and precision to the rest of the world is also going to be terrifying to any country that was also thinking of fucking around with nuclear weaponry... because iran found out

I mean Iran wasn't close to Nukes. NK been testing them for awhile now and we aint done shit to them, guess cuz Bibi doesn't care about them. Shit is silly as fuck anyways, Iran wasn't going to develop a nuke and then just commit global suicide by shooting it at the US or anyone else like the media is just repeating over and over. Like all nukes it would have been a bargaining chip but the browns can't be allowed to sit at the table.

[Tymon]

Obviously all of that is true. It was just a statement on a US show of force in a vacuum, not whether or not it made any sense to do it or not.

[Rhyis.]

I mean Iran wasn't close to Nukes. NK been testing them for awhile now and we aint done shit to them, guess cuz Bibi doesn't care about them. Shit is silly as fuck anyways, Iran wasn't going to develop a nuke and then just commit global suicide by shooting it at the US or anyone else like the media is just repeating over and over. Like all nukes it would have been a bargaining chip but the browns can't be allowed to sit at the table.

https://www.iaea.org/sites/default/f...gov2025-24.pdf

D. Summary
30. The Agency’s JCPOA-related verification and monitoring has been seriously affected by the
cessation of implementation by Iran of its nuclear-related commitments under the JCPOA. The situation
has been exacerbated by Iran’s subsequent decision to have all of the Agency’s JCPOA-related
surveillance and monitoring equipment removed.
31. The Agency has lost continuity of knowledge in relation to the production and current inventory
of centrifuges, rotors and bellows, heavy water and UOC, which it will not be able to restore as a result
of not having been able to perform JCPOA-related verification and monitoring activities for more than
four years.
32. Iran’s decision to remove all of the Agency’s equipment previously installed in Iran for
JCPOA-related surveillance and monitoring activities has also had detrimental implications for the
Agency’s ability to provide assurance of the peaceful nature of Iran’s nuclear programme.
33. It has also been more than four years since Iran stopped provisionally applying its Additional
Protocol. Therefore, throughout this period, Iran has not provided updated declarations and the Agency
has not been able to conduct complementary access to any sites and other locations in Iran.
34. The significantly increased production and accumulation of highly enriched uranium by Iran, the
only non-nuclear-weapon State to produce such nuclear material, is of serious concern.
35. The Director General will continue to report as appropriate.

Of the 186 countries in the world that do not currently have a nuclear arsenal, Iran are the only country in the world that has high enrichment uranium of the purity level that they do. Uranium at a specific purity threshold is how nukes can be made.

Regardless of how morally "right" you may believe bombing Iran was, do not get it twisted. Iran were unequivocally working towards building a nuclear weapon. This isn't a determination made by Israel or the US, the rest of world all agree on that statement.

[Tymon]

The rest of the world are equally loyal Hasbara servants and all of them are unreliable sources that should be wholly ignored

[Anoat]

Strait of Hormuz gonna be closed looks like so you probably wanna get your gas tank filled up today

[Meresgi]

[Dimmauk]

They should have attacked our nuclear weapons laboratorys.

[Yabby]

To be fair to Iran, it’s hard to blame them for pursuing nuclear weapons at this point. It increasingly seems like the only real deterrent against invasion or attack, especially in a world that barely bats an eye when one country forcibly takes land from another.

[mallister]

With the AUMF still in place, he can basically do whatever he wants forever as long as he says he's fighting terrorism or whatever, right?

fair point.

[Meresgi]

To be fair to Iran, it’s hard to blame them for pursuing nuclear weapons at this point. It increasingly seems like the only real deterrent against invasion or attack, especially in a world that barely bats an eye when one country forcibly takes land from another.

Yup, we just bully around all these other countries, offer our support and then pull it away the moment we need to do "anything" to actually help them out and leave them stranded to fend and die for themselves. We then freak out in another few years when some major terrorist thing happens with a pikachu face. "They chant death to America"...well yeah no shit, we haven't exactly been anything other then hostile and fucking with them for decades.

[Infini]

Strait of Hormuz gonna be closed looks like so you probably wanna get your gas tank filled up today

Coming Soon: Operation Preying Mantis II: Ayatolld-ya We'd Be Back.

[Xno Kappa]

BG openly advocating for nuclear proliferation throughout a region notoriously antagonized by said state actor in Iran is certainly a take.

[archibaldcrane]

BG openly advocating for nuclear proliferation throughout a region notoriously antagonized by said state actor in Iran is certainly a take.

There was a deal to be made, we didn't have to start a war.

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[Sirious]

Really no good answer. Obviously we want no one to have nukes, but at the same time, it's the only thing that keeps the peace. A measured amount of peace, that is.

The threat of such immeasurable violence.

[Byrthnoth]

It's hard to get too bent out of shape about the outcome. Oh, Iran is going to hate us? Trump lost credibility as an honest broker? US politicians are obviously Bibi's bitches?

There may have been a better path, but I'm not convinced much substantially changed here.