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    Quote Originally Posted by mallister View Post
    The larger point would be correct, and I agree with it, except North Korea is literally the worst. It doesn't get any shittier than them.
    I agree with this. And to an extent, albeit my own thought process behind it, attempts to defend the way minorities are treated unfairly on our own soil.

    The age old argument of how can the US police the world whilst having such egregious unrest within it's own borders comes to mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salodin View Post
    The wh press pool got into a kerfuffle with NK security, and the new press secretary got a little disheveled from it. I saw reporters talk about my on Twitter but I haven't seen an article on it yet.

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    Would Sarah do that for them? I'm doubtful

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    Cartoonist makes savage illustration, paper he works for not pleased.

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    Where is the lie in that cartoon?

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    Not just displeased, the newspaper fired him - demonstrating the don't understand the point of political cartoons.

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    one could agrue it's incredibly insensitive to the family of the deceased, i could see that being reason enough to fire someone. imo the drawing is made in bad faith. not everyone shares the same political agenda when exploiting the deaths of minorities and children

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    Made in bad faith, meaning that the artist doesn't actually think Trump's policies are to blame for the drowning?

    Pretty sure it's a good faith political cartoon.

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    Pretty insensitive for the president to be golfing while people are dying as they try to claim asylum, but alas hes played quite a bit of golf this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D44kpunk View Post
    one could agrue it's incredibly insensitive to the family of the deceased, i could see that being reason enough to fire someone. imo the drawing is made in bad faith. not everyone shares the same political agenda when exploiting the deaths of minorities and children
    I am pretty sure this has been the MO in regards to political cartoons forever. They exploit situations to make powerful statements about politics. It is what they do. This isn't any different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoobernut View Post
    I am pretty sure this has been the MO in regards to political cartoons forever. They exploit situations to make powerful statements about politics. It is what they do. This isn't any different.
    i didn't say it wasn't a powerful statement, definitely is, i'm just saying i'm not even remotely surprised he was fired for it

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    Quote Originally Posted by D44kpunk View Post
    i didn't say it wasn't a powerful statement, definitely is, i'm just saying i'm not even remotely surprised he was fired for it
    My point is that the paper is stupid for firing him and should understand that this is how political cartoons operate and have operated for years. They don't need to publish it but to fire him is just asinine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archibaldcrane View Post
    Made in bad faith, meaning that the artist doesn't actually think Trump's policies are to blame for the drowning?

    Pretty sure it's a good faith political cartoon.
    as in they were only taking into account the political message they were sending and disregarding the victims' families
    Quote Originally Posted by Salodin View Post
    Pretty insensitive for the president to be golfing while people are dying as they try to claim asylum, but alas hes played quite a bit of golf this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D44kpunk View Post
    as in they were only taking into account the political message they were sending and disregarding the victims' families

    gottem
    Victims' families are probably more upset they died seeking asylum than people who are attacking the man that has instituted policies that contributed to this father and daughter dying seeking asylum.

    BUT WHO KNOWS

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoobernut View Post
    My point is that the paper is stupid for firing him and should understand that this is how political cartoons operate and have operated for years. They don't need to publish it but to fire him is just asinine.
    my guess is that's what would have happened if he submitted it to be in the paper or whatever it is that he works for, twitter/social media is a different world though. he posted it on his twitter, representing his company

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    Is your argument that no one is thinking about the victims family, when posting a cartoon of Trump golfing around the family's dead migrants?

    Okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salodin View Post
    Is your argument that no one is thinking about the victims family, when posting a cartoon of Trump golfing around the family's dead migrants?

    Okay.

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    generally it's wildly insensitive to politicize a childs death

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    Wow okay

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    Quote Originally Posted by D44kpunk View Post
    generally it's wildly insensitive to politicize a childs death
    Unless it serves the ultra conservative/GOP agenda. (See the abortion argument about "babies" dying).

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoobernut View Post
    Unless it serves the ultra conservative/GOP agenda. (See the abortion argument about "babies" dying).
    insensitive in both cases, i'm not conservative, no idea why you'd bring that up

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