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    That's not what happened but ok. Bits of it are true but overall it's incorrect. You went on a if I were the family bit there and then talking about how political cartoons shouldn't be political.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D44kpunk View Post
    I swear the ability to read is lost amongst the circle jerk posters in this section. My very first post I said you could argue it's insensitive and then gave my reasons for that argument. I never claimed this to be fact but with 9 of you jumping on my dick and not reading anything it's astonishing how many times I have to repeat myself.
    there's no reasonable reason given in the original post

    we're struggling to see how the families of the politically slain will feel wronged by critique of some of the policies that led to their demise, something you now acknowledge hasn't happened

    one could state one could make an argument and then actually make an argument or one could say one could make an argument and then fail to make one (and then cry foul after people don't take it as a point well made..)

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    Quote Originally Posted by archibaldcrane View Post
    that's not what "in bad faith" means
    people using phrases they don't understand is the highlight of my days it's just so sui generis of them

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    I don't even know how any of this is a reason to fire the guy.

    If you are going off the idea that the cartoon "MIGHT" be insensitive to the family, than the one I posted "MIGHT" also be insensitive to the family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkster View Post
    That's not what happened but ok. Bits of it are true but overall it's incorrect. You went on a if I were the family bit there and then talking about how political cartoons shouldn't be political.
    Generally when you make an argument for something you assume the position of it. I said several times it can be about Trump and still insensitive to the family. Idk why I bother responding to you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ksandra View Post
    I don't even know how any of this is a reason to fire the guy.

    If you are going off the idea that the cartoon "MIGHT" be insensitive to the family, than the one I posted "MIGHT" also be insensitive to the family.
    One is showing the a toddler face down in the dirt on a golf course. The other is showing children in heaven.. like I get what you're saying but surely there are better cartoons to make this argument with

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niiro View Post
    It's not okay to politicize the deaths of people who are dead due to extremely political causes.
    mr Gorbachev how's the wife and kids i don't want to politicize human suffering your wall has pretty drawings on it xo Ronny

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    Quote Originally Posted by D44kpunk View Post
    One is showing the a toddler face down in the dirt on a golf course. The other is showing children in heaven.. like I get what you're saying but surely there are better cartoons to make this argument with
    This is not a reason to fire the guy. What is your reasoning? Be specific.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ksandra View Post
    This is not a reason to fire the guy. What is your reasoning? Be specific.
    I gave it throughout the last few pages. It could be seen as insensitive to the family. The family doesn't have to say it's insensitive for someone to be fired, proactivity vs reactivity. Something most businesses preach, generally the reactive ones are bad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andalusian girls View Post
    mr Gorbachev how's the wife and kids i don't want to politicize human suffering your wall has pretty drawings on it xo Ronny
    <3

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    Quote Originally Posted by D44kpunk View Post
    I gave it throughout the last few pages. It could be seen as insensitive to the family.
    And again, the other COULD be seen as insensitive to the family, based on what you said. You aren't even giving a line, just "this one might be more insensitive than the other." That's not a good argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ksandra View Post
    And again, the other COULD be seen as insensitive to the family, based on what you said. You aren't even giving a line, just "this one might be more insensitive than the other." That's not a good argument.
    Personally, and you're entitled to saying my opinion is wrong, I would say if anything the one you posted is wholesome. The one that sparked this "discussion" is nowhere near wholesome. To me one is clearly more offensive than the other

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    Quote Originally Posted by D44kpunk View Post
    Personally, and you're entitled to saying my opinion is wrong, I would say if anything the one you posted is wholesome. The one that sparked this "discussion" is nowhere near wholesome. To me one is clearly more offensive than the other
    But you yourself said this was about the families interpretation, not you. And when you get wishy washy with the word "might" then you have no argument. Just because you don't find the other one insensitive doesn't mean the other families "might" not find it insensitive.


    Political cartoons are there to push the buttons on political statements. All the good ones "might" be insensitive to someone. Your argument is terrible.

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    Also, completely lol @ finding a cartoon full of shot kids "wholesome." What is this life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ksandra View Post
    But you yourself said this was about the families interpretation, not you. And when you get wishy washy with the word "might" then you have no argument. Just because you don't find the other one insensitive doesn't mean the other families "might" not find it insensitive.


    Political cartoons are there to push the buttons on political statements. All the good ones "might" be insensitive to someone. Your argument is terrible.
    Proof of the others families finding it insensitive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ksandra View Post
    Also, completely lol @ finding a cartoon full of shot kids "wholesome." What is this life.
    It's showing them in heaven, welcoming a hero. I don't think you even know what you posted..

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    Quote Originally Posted by D44kpunk View Post
    Proof of the others families finding it insensitive?
    That's your argument, chief, not mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D44kpunk View Post
    It's showing them in heaven, welcoming a hero. I don't think you even know what you posted..
    Yes, in heaven because they were shot, too. Do you even understand the image?

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    I'm glad I'm not the one engaging in this shit this time lol. If this is how yall feel when it happens then I'm sorry, I'll never participate in it again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ksandra View Post
    That's your argument, chief, not mine.
    Yeah I was throwing shade at the idea of me proving that the first cartoon posted was insensitive by the families of the victims by using your words against you.

    I'm not going to keep arguing my opinion. I already said I think it's thought provoking and a good cartoon, something the brigade is preferring to ignore. Just not remotely surprised the company fired him

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