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    I dont think anyone is saying anything other than Trump lied about not being close, at least at one point in time, to Epstein, and that even women paid to give attention to a man/men dont expect or welcome being sexually exploited. A lot of people are trying to take the chance to move some goal posts, but ayy that's par for course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zealot View Post
    Ok so

    The issue is that Trump went out of his way to say Epstein was a great guy and he loved him

    And then when he gets busted for being a pedo Trump is like oh yeah I never really liked that guy that I went to private billionaire parties with.

    Whatever else is happening here about whether the 28 models they flew in were of age or not seems off topic.

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    correct, the 28 models isn't really a relevant story to anything, it's clickbait bullshit.

    if anything the only relevance is that they went to parties together, it's just worded in a way to make it seem like they were banging 28 12 year olds so that some shitty website gets some ad revenue

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    The relevant thing is that Trump is lying about his connection to the notorious pedophile pimp lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zealot View Post
    Ok so

    The issue is that Trump went out of his way to say Epstein was a great guy and he loved him

    And then when he gets busted for being a pedo Trump is like oh yeah I never really liked that guy that I went to private billionaire parties with.

    Whatever else is happening here about whether the 28 models they flew in were of age or not seems off topic.

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    Yah, Trump said something hypocritical that his followers will eat up in a heartbeat. Stop the presses. I don't care, the idiot does this every day.

    I do care about the casual sexism being displayed in the original post I quoted on the demeaning portrayal of these women as "Girls", painting them, purposefully or not, as defenseless or naive or without agency, painting them as children. Not all of you are doing it, jeez. I'm literally pointing out the casual sexism or calling women of age, adults women, "Girls" when it benefits a narrative. The term "Girls" implies underage or children, which IS demeaning to women of age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D44kpunk View Post
    I don't think I knew who Trump was in 2002, I was 12. I meant the source article that article was written off. That's why I said the original my dude

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimmauk View Post
    home alone missed me by a tad, i was 2 when it(home alone 2) came out, admittedly i didn't watch them until my 20s. wasn't a huge fan of the sequels tbh.


    and even if i had watched them before that i'm not sure it would have registered who trump was, i appreciate all the interest in me knowing who trump was pre age 12 tho. and people say BG doesn't care

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    Home Alone 1/2 are generally pretty great movies. Anything past that and its just cash in garbage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D44kpunk View Post
    home alone missed me by a tad, i was 2 when it(home alone 2) came out, admittedly i didn't watch them until my 20s. wasn't a huge fan of the sequels tbh.


    and even if i had watched them before that i'm not sure it would have registered who trump was, i appreciate all the interest in me knowing who trump was pre age 12 tho. and people say BG doesn't care
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    So, question, when Trump wins 2020 do you think the media will freak out as much or will they just be used to it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    Yah, Trump said something hypocritical that his followers will eat up in a heartbeat. Stop the presses. I don't care, the idiot does this every day.

    I do care about the casual sexism being displayed in the original post I quoted on the demeaning portrayal of these women as "Girls", painting them, purposefully or not, as defenseless or naive or without agency, painting them as children. Not all of you are doing it, jeez. I'm literally pointing out the casual sexism or calling women of age, adults women, "Girls" when it benefits a narrative. The term "Girls" implies underage or children, which IS demeaning to women of age.
    I think you're giving 18 year olds in general too much credit. We say 18 year olds are adults by society's standards, but they can be dumb as hell, naive, and can certainly be defenseless. Especially in a situation where someone with power and status is involved.

    However, I do not know the circumstances of this incident in particular.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tokitoki View Post
    I think you're giving 18 year olds in general too much credit. We say 18 year olds are adults by society's standards, but they can be dumb as hell, naive, and can certainly be defenseless. Especially in a situation where someone with power and status is involved.

    However, I do not know the circumstances of this incident in particular.
    Eh, they were all over 18, 18 was the minimum age, though I imagine with that industry not many were over 25.

    That said, I'm still not okay with normalizing this kind of casual sexism, especially not for media outrage and double for when used against someone we condemn daily for his blatant sexism. When Boys hit 18, they are Men, regardless of how stupid they are or are not... Women are the same. We are dealing with a lot of hypothetical which is why all I'm trying to address is the casual sexism angle.

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    Are you still in a fury about them being called "Calendar Girls" instead of "Calendar Women"?

    my god

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    I get where you're going with the media trying sensationalize the subject by using the term "girls," and I can agree with you on that front. I'm not convinced "girls" as a whole is as offensive as you seem to be implying if you're using it in a common conversation or something.

    If I'm at a friend's place and another couple shows up and they ask where people are, I may say "oh, the girls are out back" or something to that effect. I don't think anyone is getting offended by that, but maybe I'm just a casual sexist.

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    Yah surprisingly when people respond and talk to me I like to give them a response back to clarify. Weird.

    Edit: (just to Toki) Theres a big difference between this and casual conversation or discussions between friends, I wouldn't ever judge you for that. This is a tad different though.

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    Is it sexism when the media and politicians keep mentioning how we should stop sending our boys overseas for war or nah? Or calling police the Boys in Blue? Or those sultry vampires in Cali the Lost Boys?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lokus View Post
    sultry vampires in Cali the Lost Boys?
    This is very sexist.

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    That dude on the far right is definitely a boy. Probably the last three, even.

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    Big forehead guy is probably like 35 in this picture.

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    Tbh I get a little miffed when I say girl and someone corrects me to woman based on age but I do understand the underlying casual sexism. It just took me years to stop saying chicks, I need more time with this.

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