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    just so i'm on the same page as everyone else, what amount of money or situation needs to be happening for getting paid to have sex being a choice?

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    to the rent example, what if you have sex with someone else for money to cover your rent and otherwise you can't cover it or you'd be evicted. is it ok in that situation? trying to understand the fucked up hoops we are needing to process through here to be on the same book

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    ---> you shouldn't throw your tenants onto the street unless they agree to have sex with you

    'what unconscionably opaque indeed Joycean mental acrobatics are we talking about here fellas '

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    i do respect the commitment to defending even hypothetical sexual predators

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andalusian girls View Post
    ---> you shouldn't threaten to throw your tenants onto the street unless they have sex with you

    'what unconscionably opaque indeed Joycean mental acrobatics are we talking about here fellas '
    so in this situation someone is paying for rent, but still threatening to be evicted if they don't have sex with someone? so that's the basis for bad, we established that. where does it stop being bad? do you see what i'm asking here bud? why do things always need to be spelled out to you?

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    So did the tenant thing actually happen or did we just pull that out of our ass cause Its a nice sturdy defensible position.

    Secondly, I do have to ask at what point does the Power/Money scale tip consensual sex into rape for you guys? I would too like to know where the line is drawn. Not specifically related to Trump or Fuckstick, I just want to know if theres any world where Power/Money =/= rape?

    Mine, for instance, is where the one in power Implies bad things will happen if you don't. Soft coercion, if you will. I.E eviction, not getting the movie role, "Never work in this town again", or "You wanna be famous don't ya?" type deals.

    Edit: Also, I'd like to add, Regret isn't rape. Male or Females, If someone offers you something for sex, you trade them sex, and they give you what they offered and later on you decide "Man this thing is not as good as I thought", not rape. Not talking coercion, implications, soft coercion, threats or some such. Obvious extenuating circumstances will apply.

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    they say art imitates life and that scenario is in a lot of adult art so yeah p sure it's legit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andalusian girls View Post
    they say art imitates life and that scenario is in a lot of adult art so yeah p sure it's legit
    Fuck I'm proud of you for that one.

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    It happened several times in this Darcie Dolce landlord training video I saw.

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    A heavy-chested friend of mine had her car break down and the random mechanic shop AAA towed it to said they'd fix it for free if she'd fuck him.

    she was not a fan of this plan

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    Quote Originally Posted by archibaldcrane View Post
    A heavy-chested friend of mine had her car break down and the random mechanic shop AAA towed it to said they'd fix it for free if she'd fuck him.

    she was not a fan of this plan
    sleazy for sure, but not sure if relevant. she probably declined and he fixed the car and charged her $

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    it still is wild that it's illegal to have a photo of a naked 16 year old in every state (and the US Virgin Islands, as in Epstein's case) but in many states you can fuck said 16 year old np

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    secondly you trying to mask your position in feminism is adorable but it is telling you continually imply only women can be the victims of this kind of immoral sexuality.

    and it's bad form to answer a question with another but as my tennis coach would've told you my form is frequently bad, so, do you believe the many documented non-violent sexual relations between slave and owner in the American South were consensual? that is an extreme example to be sure but illustrative that violence is not the sina qua non of sexual assault. in modern times i'd say a boss threatening to fire someone unless they plow or a landlord threatening eviction to be common examples of coercive, non-violent sex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D44kpunk View Post
    sleazy for sure, but not sure if relevant. she probably declined and he fixed the car and charged her $

    no she paid to get it towed to another shop

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    Where is this friend now

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    if you've ever seen Girl with the Dragon Tattoo the state appointed guardian using control over Lisbeth's finances to extort sexual favors from her is a p perfect example of such but if you watch those scenes thinking yep that's just two consensual adults doing what they do then you do you pony boy, you do you

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    Just like a traditional marriage

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andalusian girls View Post
    secondly you trying to mask your position in feminism is adorable but it is telling you continually imply only women can be the victims of this kind of immoral sexuality.

    and it's bad form to answer a question with another but as my tennis coach would've told you my form is frequently bad, so, do you believe the many documented non-violent sexual relations between slave and owner in the American South were consensual? that is an extreme example to be sure but illustrative that violence is not the sina qua non of sexual assault. in modern times i'd say a boss threatening to fire someone unless they plow or a landlord threatening eviction to be common examples of coercive, non-violent sex.
    wait who I'm losing track, me or D44k

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    So did the tenant thing actually happen or did we just pull that out of our ass cause Its a nice sturdy defensible position.

    Secondly, I do have to ask at what point does the Power/Money scale tip consensual sex into rape for you guys? I would too like to know where the line is drawn. Not specifically related to Trump or Fuckstick, I just want to know if theres any world where Power/Money =/= rape?

    Mine, for instance, is where the one in power Implies bad things will happen if you don't. Soft coercion, if you will. I.E eviction, not getting the movie role, "Never work in this town again", or "You wanna be famous don't ya?" type deals.
    i was waiting for someone to reply so i didn't have to give my own opinion, but personally i view it as if you're gaining something then you're at fault, but if someone is threatening to take something from you they are at fault.

    so for example to keep it simple, the woman is offered her rent for free if she fucks the landlord, if she accepts she's "at fault".

    and example two, woman is threatened to be evicted for bullshit reason because she won't fuck the landlord despite the fact that she's paying rent. the landlord is at fault

    i am guessing 28 "calendar girls" going to a billionaires mansion for a party felt like they had something to gain, i cannot put myself in their shoes but yeah, that's where i was going with this conversation. glad to hear the mental loops we are going to put my opinion through though.

    weakens the stance of democrats to use your fee fee's and opinions instead of facts, just wait for some related news and stop talking about click bait articles as an attempt to thwart trump

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    Quote Originally Posted by D44kpunk View Post
    just so i'm on the same page as everyone else, what amount of money or situation needs to be happening for getting paid to have sex being a choice?

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