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[Xno Kappa]

Miles Morales is Dominican. I don’t give a fuck what the “official” shit says. His design is straight out of Los Alcarrizos.

[Xno Kappa]

It’s anti-Dominican discrimination.

[Xno Kappa]

Babe Ruth’s real name was Beivy Rodríguez by the way. Open your third eye!

[Andalusian girls]

[Milkster]

As one of their next big movies no less.

Guys there’s no racism involved in any of the recent decision making because one of their previously biggest movies was about black people. Just like racism in America ended when Obama was elected

[Salodin]

Maybe, on the black characters getting sidelined. Not so for the female characters though; their products just underperform time and again and I can't blame a soul for deemphasizing or outright cancelling female-led suoerhero movies. Can anyone name one that has excelled critically? This goes for marvel and DC

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[Krandor]

The first wonder woman movie.

... yeah that's about it

[Gredival]

lol watch all the quality movies just happen to go back to centering predominantly cishet white men as the focus of these films and phases again.

Have you considered that the strength of these movies is the IP they are based on?

The comic runs of Sam Wilson's Captain America, Jane Foster's Thor, Riri's Iron Heart, etc. were bad compared to Rogers, Odinson, and Stark trio.

Marvel tried to make the characters symbols that anyone could step into.
People like and want stories about the original characters.

The most successful characters of color Marvel has are the ones who were organically created and grown, not the ones transplanted to be replacements.

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[Gredival]

Maybe, on the black characters getting sidelined. Not so for the female characters though; their products just underperform time and again and I can't blame a soul for deemphasizing or outright cancelling female-led suoerhero movies. Can anyone name one that has excelled critically? This goes for marvel and DC

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I mean we are talking about series as well since we are bringing up Iron Heart and Armor Wars. So you have She Hulk as a failure and Jessica Jones as a success.

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[Lokus]

I thought the actual metrics for She-Hulk showed it performed extremely well, it just had the social media problem of chuds putting it down.

[Tyrath]

Guys there’s no racism involved in any of the recent decision making because one of their previously biggest movies was about black people. Just like racism in America ended when Obama was elected

Idiotic comparison because you're talking about one group (Feige and co.) here and then comparing it to all of America. If someone's racist, they probably won't make one of their big movies Black Panther.

[Qalbert]

I mean its not black and white (sorry) and as simple as them having a "no minorities no womenfolk" policy, but it's hard to not notice that the past few years of decision making has largely been at the disservice of those groups, and while the underperformance or perceived lack of success is obviously a factor I don't think it's entirely fair to blame it squarely on the market either. They've shown that there can be success there as seen with BP and to a lesser degree Shang Chi and such, but a lot of their efforts feel half baked and then underperform and it becomes a feedback loop. So yes it's not like someone in charge is going to Klan meetings, but theres definitely an element of "it's not worth it to put in the work on that front" when it's easier (and results in less maga bitching) to just keep doing the 'traditional' stuff.

[Milkster]

Idiotic comparison because you're talking about one group (Feige and co.) here and then comparing it to all of America. If someone's racist, they probably won't make one of their big movies Black Panther.

Seems you don't understand that capitalism and racism are intrinsically linked. When you're not viewing people as people but rather as a product is easy to platform you're highest performers. Did we not see how Kapernick was treated when he attempted to humanize black people. Also how the NFL routinely suppresses reports how traumatic the sport is.

Also did you not see how Disney deplatformed Kimmel because of Trump? Theyre obviously making these choices to avoid any political blowback

[6souls]

The Wonder Man cancelation is sounding more like a Disney decision than a Feige

[Mertron]

The first wonder woman movie.

... yeah that's about it

not critically (though it wasn’t completely panned), but captain marvel did fine for box office

[Salodin]

I mean we are talking about series as well since we are bringing up Iron Heart and Armor Wars. So you have She Hulk as a failure and Jessica Jones as a success.

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Forgot all about Jessica jones. That one did actually rock

I thought the actual metrics for She-Hulk showed it performed extremely well, it just had the social media problem of chuds putting it down.

The word id use is fine. It was just...fine. not exciting in the least, and don't miss it at all nor care if it never came back. Can't say that for the original avengers crew imo. I'd even take more black widow, but they (and scarjo I guess) don't really want to build on her anymore.

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[synistar]

Where is the "What If?" (Uatu still played by Jeffrey Wright) where Boseman is alive and Majors isn't a woman beater POS?

[Kaslo]

Who is getting sidelined for nostalgia bait in the next Avengers.

I mean, we don't know that. That's the beauty of the multiverse.

[Weltall]

The Wonder Man cancelation is sounding more like a Disney decision than a Feige

I honestly had no idea this show existed, until the cancellation news.

[Krandor]

That's on you dog. It had good reviews/viewership and got some Emmy nominations.