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    I want to have hope, god I really do, I'm just... so used to nobody being held accountable in this administration that I dont want to cling to hope anymore because it just makes me angrier when everyone moves on and none of our systems of justice do anything.

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    I think it's a misread to believe that liberals can/should become more activated/engaged. Liberals are already pretty activated and polling shows they basically hate everything that's happening, but they have been convinced that peaceful political change is impossible / impotent and they don't want to take more extreme measures. Maybe they'll go protest if it's sunny and temperate, but "what for?" is a real question. Activating liberals even more may lead to violence and burning cities down as they turn to nihilism and away from politics, but I don't know that it makes political change more likely. The kind of liberal activists that burn down cities are so rare that they're politically inconsequential (except for their fallout), though.

    Depressingly, the reason to have it be a basic white woman is that it would pull the "moderates" over to the liberal side. We have two political parties, but an electorate that's divided into three. Republicans, Democrats, and people who wish everyone would just shut the fuck up about politics. A Native American lesbian liberal political activist is way more complicated and less basic than a "black pepper is spicy" Deborah from Arizona, and, my suspicion is, the less basic you are the harder it is for a person who can't form strong political opinions in 2026 to identify with you. If it has been a white woman who made a wrong turn and was trying to get out of the way, maybe we'd get some basic Deborahs, Nancys, and Jeffs turning purple states blue and some red states purple (very eventually). Maybe it would even color the their perception of the likely violence that we're going to see in the next few weeks.

    There's a reason that MLK pointed out that the white moderate (your basic american) was a greater impediment to civil rights than the KKK. (link, control F for "I must make two honest confessions to you") People that are doing alright are always going to pull for the status quo and are going to be a pretty heavy weight against the kind of change that we actually need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    I want to have hope, god I really do, I'm just... so used to nobody being held accountable in this administration that I dont want to cling to hope anymore because it just makes me angrier when everyone moves on and none of our systems of justice do anything.
    Have y'all seen the videos? Bet those ICE agents thought she was Hispanic and had no problems letting her die even though there was a neighbor doctor that could have treated her. This is fucked up

    Meanwhile, the MAGAs want to put up a statue of Ashlii Babbitt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    I think it's a misread to believe that liberals can/should become more activated/engaged. Liberals are already pretty activated and polling shows they basically hate everything that's happening, but they have been convinced that peaceful political change is impossible / impotent and they don't want to take more extreme measures. Maybe they'll go protest if it's sunny and temperate, but "what for?" is a real question. Activating liberals even more may lead to violence and burning cities down as they turn to nihilism and away from politics, but I don't know that it makes political change more likely. The kind of liberal activists that burn down cities are so rare that they're politically inconsequential (except for their fallout), though.

    Depressingly, the reason to have it be a basic white woman is that it would pull the "moderates" over to the liberal side. We have two political parties, but an electorate that's divided into three. Republicans, Democrats, and people who wish everyone would just shut the fuck up about politics. A Native American lesbian liberal political activist is way more complicated and less basic than a "black pepper is spicy" Deborah from Arizona, and, my suspicion is, the less basic you are the harder it is for a person who can't form strong political opinions in 2026 to identify with you. If it has been a white woman who made a wrong turn and was trying to get out of the way, maybe we'd get some basic Deborahs, Nancys, and Jeffs turning purple states blue and some red states purple (very eventually). Maybe it would even color the their perception of the likely violence that we're going to see in the next few weeks.

    There's a reason that MLK pointed out that the white moderate (your basic american) was a greater impediment to civil rights than the KKK. (link, control F for "I must make two honest confessions to you") People that are doing alright are always going to pull for the status quo and are going to be a pretty heavy weight against the kind of change that we actually need.
    Last time cities burned, Dems did pretty fucking well electorally.

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    Maybe we can get Hakeem Jeffries to Minnesota to lead a protest singing Kumbaya in the town square.

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    CNN is having a field day replaying uncensored f-bombs.

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    Driver had a 4 year old son who already had a dead father. Now orphaned.

    Pop off Minnesota.

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    They do such a good job on social media with manipulating the narrative on this stuff.

    Scrolling an hour ago I couldn’t find a single post that wasn’t 100% behind ICE and celebrating this. Log out and clear my cache and now it’s totally the opposite.

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    I personally cannot wait for the AI video Trump inevitably tweets about this.

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    https://x.com/i/status/2009023477999903008

    YOOOO SHE LOOOKS WHITE

    WE RIOT NOW?

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    https://x.com/i/status/2008997792920879560

    Y'all think it's a joke

    Just like you thought Donald Trump stealing Denmark was a joke during the first term

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    https://x.com/i/status/2009020620978442712

    Here we go, the jokes are finally pouring in

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    Okay last one

    https://x.com/i/status/2008972440886730926

    She was waving them by, not blocking them like earlier reported. ICE looking more guilty as fuck by the hour

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    Gotta say the more this tension builds the more I am interested in it. Because this is like the #2 thing they all voted for. This isn't like tariffs or starting wars or anything. They wanted this very much... so...

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    She was slowly trying to pull away and turning right and the agent immediately takes out his gun and fires through the open side window.

    Good god.

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    Seeing this boiling hot powderkeg, if ICE doesn't leave and they attempt to walk those streets again, there's going to be dead agents. I'm here for it, I hope it's multiple. Can't wait for the murderous cunt to get doxed.

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    Trump claims he's in the hospital recovering from the vicious attempt on his life, so...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salodin View Post
    Okay last one

    https://x.com/i/status/2008972440886730926

    She was waving them by, not blocking them like earlier reported. ICE looking more guilty as fuck by the hour

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    There's still plenty of questions for why her car was in that position and what that other stopped car to her right was doing but she 100% tried to leave before the earlier speeding car cut her off then she tried to wave the other vehicle before ICE came slinging their little dicks.

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    Ain't no fucking hospital admitting that man.

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    They got his ass out of the state before he got arrested is what they did.

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