Godwin's Thread

[Andalusian girls]

but why base policies on things like evidence when you have theory that contradicts evidence

[archibaldcrane]

Two tiered system (the public plan would have a smaller network, longer wait times, and be politically vulnerable to cuts)

And you don't get the administrative savings if providers still have to deal with the fuckery of billing ten different plans with different rates and all.

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[BerenTebogo]

can i get a harry potter translator

the path to hell is easy you fuckin' nerd

that's prob wrong

[archibaldcrane]

facilis descensus Averno

It's all Greek to me

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[Fiye]

Also anyone been to deadspin the last couple of mins there are some wild posts going up there. www.deadspin.com

[BerenTebogo]

there's also that whole nagging detail that countries which maintain private insurance to supplement their universal healthcare produce better health results than countries which attempt to outlaw it entirely

kinda like how many first world countries who implemented a wealth tax eventually repealed it because it did fuck all amirite

[Day]

same people that sit on here all day and talk about what a fascist terrible government we live under want to give them full control of their health insurance really activates those almonds

[Fiye]

there's also that whole nagging detail that countries which maintain private insurance to supplement their universal healthcare produce better health results than countries which attempt to outlaw it entirely

kind of wild that we live in a world where if you throw more money into health care you get better health care.

[Day]

Also anyone been to deadspin the last couple of mins there are some wild posts going up there. www.deadspin.com

bro let me let you in on something, no one gives a fuck about deadspin

[archibaldcrane]

there's also that whole nagging detail that countries which maintain private insurance to supplement their universal healthcare produce better health results than countries which attempt to outlaw it entirely

Yes you could keep them with much more regulation, including all-payer rate setting and requiring doctors to take patients regardless of insurer. (note that the plans that keep private insurance don't do these things and are therefore bad)

But why?

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[Andalusian girls]

kinda like how many first world countries who implemented a wealth tax eventually repealed it because it did fuck all amirite

we're different Sath

it'll be different with us

we'll raise every promised penny

because we're different

[Zealot]

same people that sit on here all day and talk about what a fascist terrible government we live under want to give them full control of their health insurance really activates those almonds

0 reason not to tbh, like unless they're going to start making your Congressional rep operate on you nothing about your doctor is gonna change. The whole idea is about who pays for it, not who provides it.

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[Zealot]

Like I'm pretty sure they get good health care in China.

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[Zealot]

And abundant organ transplants.

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[BerenTebogo]

we're different Sath

it'll be different with us

we'll raise every promised penny

because we're different

[archibaldcrane]

kinda like how many first world countries who implemented a wealth tax eventually repealed it because it did fuck all amirite

Norway's wealth tax works just fine. It's easy to value financial assets (stocks and bonds and treasuries and the like) and not hard to value real estate, and those two things are the vast bulk of billionaire wealth.

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[Andalusian girls]

Yes you could keep them with much more regulation, including all-payer rate setting and requiring doctors to take patients regardless of insurer. (note that the plans that keep private insurance don't do these things and are therefore bad)

But why?

because it's better.

[Day]

say norway one more time

[Andalusian girls]

Arch if you let us drill baby drill through Alaska and California and oil becomes 25% of our GDP and 70% of our exports we can talk about wealth taxes and outlawing private insurance ya

[Andalusian girls]

rain your filthy oil dividends on me like i'm a coked out stripper with an absent father figure