Godwin's Thread

[BerenTebogo]

Also, because I like anecdotes and they're actually relevant here:

No more than 3 people I know in my entire professional career (post-docs, national lab employees, spacecraft engineers) set out to do what they are currently doing when they entered college. Sure, many majored in physics, engineering, math, etc. But their current jobs are a result of networking, research, and success at completing projects - even ones wholly unrelated to their field of study.

School is good. Failures will fail. Learn to separate those concepts.

[D44kpunk]

I wonder if there's some sort of statistic about the wage ranges for high school diploma, bachelor, master and doctorate. I wonder if these studies also cover growth rate of wages. If only there were some way for me to look for this information.

Who are you talking to or what is this in response to?

[BerenTebogo]

I wonder if there's some sort of statistic about the wage ranges for high school diploma, bachelor, master and doctorate. I wonder if these studies also cover growth rate of wages. If only there were some way for me to look for this information.

the world may never know

[Demosthenes]

Me: we have a twenty person limit.
Mother: but you have more than 20 family members.
Me:

[D44kpunk]

Also, because I like anecdotes and they're actually relevant here:

No more than 3 people I know in my entire professional career (post-docs, national lab employees, spacecraft engineers) set out to do what they are currently doing when they entered college. Sure, many majored in physics, engineering, math, etc. But their current jobs are a result of networking, research, and success at completing projects - even ones wholly unrelated to their field of study.

School is good. Failures will fail. Learn to separate those concepts.

I feel like you've continued to make my points for me yet you are disagreeing with me or something, but yeah sure

[Tokitoki]

WHY HAS NOBODY ACTUALLY CORRECTED "FACADE?"

Fuck.

I attended 1.5 hours of a wedding that was at 4pm on a Sunday 4 hours away from my house with a 5 month old baby and our two dogs waiting at our inlaws nearby. I think my wife and I put more than enough time in on that one.

[BerenTebogo]

I feel like you've continued to make my points for me yet you are disagreeing with me or something, but yeah sure

Weird conclusion to come to

[BerenTebogo]

WHY HAS NOBODY ACTUALLY CORRECTED "FACADE?"

Fuck.

I attended 1.5 hours of a wedding that was at 4pm on a Sunday 4 hours away from my house with a 5 month old baby and our two dogs waiting at our inlaws nearby. I think my wife and I put more than enough time in on that one.

was funnier to leave it

[D44kpunk]

Me: school has nothing to do with the knowledge you're paying to gain it's about the connections and the piece of paper opening doors
BG: you're fucking nuts, school has nothing to do with the knowledge it's all about the connections you make and the piece of paper opening doors.

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[D44kpunk]

Except in saths very specific example where he learned everything he uses on the job in school

[D44kpunk]

I went to Iowa State. I'm super curious where you went that there was a curriculum with a ton of group activities. I assumed most decent sized universities would have similar experiences

[BerenTebogo]

Me: school has nothing to do with the knowledge you're paying to gain it's about the connections and the piece of paper opening doors
BG: you're fucking nuts, school has nothing to do with the knowledge it's all about the connections you make and the piece of paper opening doors.

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Except where I said that part of school is for learning how to problem solve, complete projects, work with others, etc etc etc

[D44kpunk]

Except where I said that part of school is for learning how to problem solve, complete projects, work with others, etc etc etc

But then you said a few posts later that you don't know many people who actually apply the intellectual knowledge they gain from education in their every day jobs. I would argue work experience or just getting older would be a better teacher for how to play with others than a 4yr business degree

[BerenTebogo]

I went to Iowa State. I'm super curious where you went that there was a curriculum with a ton of group activities. I assumed most decent sized universities would have similar experiences

A nowhere UMass that you've never even heard of because it's not Boston or Amherst. Around 1/3 of my advanced classes (as an undergrad) had less than 5 people in them.

[D44kpunk]

I see. I'm guessing our experiences were nothing alike then but I assume mine are in the majority and there wasn't much group work. Maybe there is now

[BerenTebogo]

But then you said a few posts later that you don't know many people who actually apply the intellectual knowledge they gain from education in their every day jobs. I would argue work experience or just getting older would be a better teacher for how to play with others than a 4yr business degree

No. I didn't.

No more than 3 people I know in my entire professional career (post-docs, national lab employees, spacecraft engineers) set out to do what they are currently doing when they entered college. Sure, many majored in physics, engineering, math, etc. But their current jobs are a result of networking, research, and success at completing projects - even ones wholly unrelated to their field of study.

I said they aren't doing what they set out to do when they entered college. Largely because they had nfc what they wanted to do and had a vague interest in science. Spacecraft engineers who majored in engineering because they heard that they will make good money DO USE ENGINEERING

[D44kpunk]

Again you're applying something to the masses that is not the case in most scenarios but I don't think you're going to see that

[Rhyis.]

sath outing himself as getting his physics degree from watching good will hunting

[D44kpunk]

Because A Is true in my group of friends B Must be true among all the business, finance, literature and econ degrees of the world

[BerenTebogo]

Again you're applying something to the masses that is not the case in most scenarios but I don't think you're going to see that

I said that if people didn't have the opportunity to stumble around and experiment and fail then the world will be much worse off but ok