Godwin's Thread

[NynJa]

LMAO! I shouldn't have to pay when the police does their job.

5/7 wew lads there
Most people serve jail time for fabricating a crime.

[Xno Kappa]

What happens when the critics start to go after the less known and successful comics like the Ari Shafeers and Theo Von’s of the world?

They once tried to go after Joey Diaz and the only reason it didn’t turn into a bigger deal was cuz Rogan used his influence to tell them to fuck off. Not everyone has that kind of top cover.

[Demosthenes]

5/7 wew lads there
Most people serve jail time for fabricating a crime.

I mean the guy is clearly a fucking idiot and deserves everything coming. The cost of investigsting his bullshit though? That's not something he shouldn't have to pay unless there's already a law to that extent. He should have been prosecuted hard and put away.

[Xno Kappa]

Comedy is at an all time great right now, but there’s definitely a loud minority that wants to stifle it. And not all comics have the luxury of millions of dollars behind them and/or friends in high places.

[archibaldcrane]

Sticks and Stones was mostly p funny but i cannot for the life of me stand celebrities bitching about how hard it is to be a celebrity these days and how the whole world is out to get you and how you can't express yourself anymore. Chappelle went full boomer mode when he spent 5-10 minutes crying about the pernicious power of outrage culture bringing up the terrible victimization of Louis CK and Kevin Hart whose lives (checks notes) weren't ruined and how you can't offend the alphabet people while he (checks notes) offended the alphabet people.

there's some mental disconnect when the rampantly successful millionaire who jokes about how popular he is and is granted a level of comedic freedom his predecessors could only dream about bemoans how persecuted he is and how he isn't allowed to joke about certain things while his jokes about those things brings in millions. dude accuses the nation of being brittle then spends extended time moaning that he and his hyperprivileged celebrity millionaire friends are the real victims. ain't very funny.

^

And he's been on this type of bitching for like 3 specials now. He's an exceptional comedic talent, just wish he'd ditch this shtick.

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[Demosthenes]

What happens when the critics start to go after the less known and successful comics like the Ari Shafeers and Theo Von’s of the world?

They once tried to go after Joey Diaz and the only reason it didn’t turn into a bigger deal was cuz Rogan used his influence to tell them to fuck off. Not everyone has that kind of top cover.

A tale as old as time. Not every comedian that could become excellent makes it. That's not an argument about if it is or is not a problem. Just, that's how it had always been.

[Andalusian girls]

What happens when the critics start to go after the less known and successful comics like the Ari Shafeers and Theo Von’s of the world?

They once tried to go after Joey Diaz and the only reason it didn’t turn into a bigger deal was cuz Rogan used his influence to tell them to fuck off. Not everyone has that kind of top cover.

who the hell reads reviews of standup specials

comedy seems largely insulated from critics, i didn't even know RT aggregated reviews for specials before people started crying about Chappelle's score

[Xno Kappa]

I should’ve said when critics/social media.

[Andalusian girls]

i mean you have Anthony Jeselnik and Jim Jeffries (both of whom i dig) and a dozen others coming up through the traditional comedy club circuit ---> standup special route joking about raping women and infanticide and everything else and people pretend comedians are more limited in their expression, that the all-powerful critical establishment stifles non-conformist voices? get real fam comedians have never been more raunchy and offensive and it sells.

[Salodin]

lmao you think people recite Russian literature you ignorant slut

I cant help but slob on the knob you present

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[Xno Kappa]

I never said comedians now feel limited lol. They’re more free/freer(?) than ever to do whatever style of comedy they want because it’s too easy to connect directly with their fans and ignore the haters.

My point is that theres very much a culture of wanting to attack them when they say a faggot joke when they’ve always been a fan of their nigger jokes.

[NynJa]

I mean the guy is clearly a fucking idiot and deserves everything coming. The cost of investigsting his bullshit though? That's not something he shouldn't have to pay unless there's already a law to that extent. He should have been prosecuted hard and put away.

Theyre probably going that route because the prosecutor bent over backwards for Jussie and let him off the hook almost entirely.

[Andalusian girls]

I never said comedians now feel limited lol. They’re more free/freer(?) than ever to do whatever style of comedy they want because it’s too easy to connect directly with their fans and ignore the haters.

My point is that theres very much a culture of wanting to attack them when they say a faggot joke when they’ve always been a fan of their nigger jokes.

that has less to do with being unable to joke about gay people than the fact Chappelle isn't gay. gay comics can say faggot all they like and black comics can say nigger all they like and people won't care.

[Demosthenes]

Incidentally

[Andalusian girls]

somehow Louis CK got away with saying both faggot and nigger all he liked

[Andalusian girls]

no wonder the dude started jerking off in front of women man thought he was bulletproof

[Andalusian girls]

Incidentally

this is still one of my favorite bits of all time

[Xno Kappa]

Forget about Chappelle and his peers. They’re established and can do whatever the fuck they want.

Do networks and/or casting directors now hesitate to pick up a guy who’s fucking hilarious and has been on the comedy circuit for quite a bit because they don’t want to offend certain demographics? Should the guy be forever held down with that glass ceiling now?

That shit is very real and theres quite a few stories from comics about this same scenario. Paul Mooney is the most famous one off the top of my head.

[Zealot]

https://youtu.be/7Bx7CFiWfU0

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[Xno Kappa]

There was a gay dude on Adam Corrallas podcast awhile back. I wish I could remember his name, but he told a story how it was a struggle to get as special cuz his jokes were too gay lol. This was long before Netflix was handing them out to everyone.