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    Quote Originally Posted by Draylo View Post
    Yall have slipped over the years. Where are the tin foil hat posters? Or they all banned in favor of far left debate tactics, shout down and deny, no compromise.

    Look, if he literally admitted to funding the server its clearly obvious something is going on behind the scenes. This guy has a huge ego and he is a millionaire. If you think he threw them a few pennies towards their server cost, you are really gullible. Most likely he met with these dummies on a different private server, they pitched him the idea for a new one and he gave them stipulations on what he wanted before he would fund it. They are at his beck and call. These are all people with complexes. They want to be top dog in Dragons Aery again and relive that childhood feels. I have no doubt there was a huge ad market campaign behind all this to push the server. Who the hell is streaming XI via 75 era in the numbers they are now? I see literal girls dressed like cats who mostly played XIV for vanity gear, they are streaming XI... give me a break, its all fake. Literally people in comments across all youtube videos on XI trying to convert people to HorizonXI "the biggest final fantasy server!"

    What a complete joke lol

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    If you don't care then don't post you goon. Clearly care enough to post stupid pics

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zealot View Post
    Yeah like, say, conversations about domestic abuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zealot View Post
    Anyway

    No one gives a shit if a streamer funded a private server

    Literally no one
    Now, I don't believe the fact of who is funding it really matters that much unless SE goes after them, and there we can agree easily. Now, people can say they personally don't care, but obviously people care about the fact of the matter.

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    You wouldn't know that though because you've demonstrably never picked up a book nor educated yourself on the matter. Let me guess, overweight housewife?
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    Most people don’t actually care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ksandra View Post
    Most people don’t actually care.
    Okay, good for them, but they don't get to say no one cares. It is obnoxious, and the conversation is on topic.

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    I can count on one hand the number of people who care.

    For some reason those 3-5 people think that a heavy majority of people (over 75%) who play on Horizon would be playing retail in 2023 if private servers didnt exist.
    I could guarantee that the heavy majority of people who are playing on Horizon are partaking on that private server because it is F-R-E-E. Hundred's (maybe even well over a thousand) of people log back into XI during free login periods. Human's love free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    I can count on one hand the number of people who care.

    For some reason those 3-5 people think that a heavy majority of people (over 75%) who play on Horizon would be playing retail in 2023 if private servers didnt exist.
    It isn't an unreasonable thought. Though, I do agree they most likely wouldn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicyryan View Post
    It isn't an unreasonable thought. Though, I do agree they most likely wouldn't.
    Yes it is an unreasonable thought.
    These arent players who walked away from XI in 2022. These are mostly people who havent subbed to FFXI in years.

    inb4: "you cant prove that"...you're right, I cant. Do you actually believe that most of the Horizon playerbase paid an XI retail subscription fee in the last three years?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    Yes it is an unreasonable thought.
    These arent players who walked away from XI in 2022. These are mostly people who havent subbed to FFXI in years.
    Difference between unreasonable and unlikely. So, no.

    I would imagine that the majority haven't played XI in years or even ever, but there is no data on it. I know of a good number of people who either play currently, or have in the last couple years and are on Horizon now. So, the idea that some would come play retail is not unreasonable, and some would if it shutdown. Likely more than we would think, but it is probably not the majority of them.

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    You wouldn't know that though because you've demonstrably never picked up a book nor educated yourself on the matter. Let me guess, overweight housewife?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicyryan View Post
    Okay, good for them, but they don't get to say no one cares. It is obnoxious, and the conversation is on topic.
    Sir, this is spam.

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    Ksandra Feb 2009
    Deejay June 2010
    Pirian Dec 2009
    Tohmane June 2013 AH sales are hidden, going by item scan date
    Akiyama Nov 2007
    Korialstrasz Aug 2012 I think that May 2015 was during free login, random one sale.
    Samalis Feb 2013 or Jun 2016 I think the 2016 was free login, or coulda been a break.
    Takedat Feb 2016 (A VILE DIRTY MULTIBOXER)
    Robertfb Mar 2016
    Wulfgang Nov 2013 AH sales hidden, using titles
    Juntao I have no idea because there was no Juntao on Ramuh, however the one who lasted longest was Juntao from Leviathan, July 2010

    Very anecdotal of course, since its ~10 of the supposed 4,000.

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    I was just pointing out that I was right and he had an ad push behind the server. People kept talking like it was the coming of christ and look the private server is so popular, SE should do it. And intelligent people were like... wait a min something isn't adding up. Lo and behold a millionaire was pushing tons of money. I honestly don't think if it's shut down they will go to retail. I even said that from the beginning, I'm not out on a crusade to get it shut down. Most who have played it have been on retail on and off thru the years. My main thing was how fake all this shit appeared compared to the other dinky private servers. It's all suspicious.

    Also that has to be the worst way to up your post count or something. Saying "who cares! Shaddap" is just wasting energy lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draylo View Post
    Also that has to be the worst way to up your post count or something. Saying "who cares! Shaddap"
    Sir, this is spam. Posts don't count for shit out here. So

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    Who the fuck is letting these degens into spam

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    Ksandra wont say the 3 magic words in the Horizon thread, its her fault.

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    Now everybody listen up 'cause I'm only gonna say this once, and we never talk about it again. Understand?

    We all lay off the Draylo now because Draylo did not fuck an ostrich.

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    FFXI sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicyryan View Post
    Okay, good for them, but they don't get to say no one cares. It is obnoxious, and the conversation is on topic.
    This has got to be the most ironic thing in this thread lmao.

    A decent chunk of my old FFXI HNMLS is playing on Horizon. 0 of them play retail.

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    Cool so they bought into the hype, why didnt they play on the other dinky private servers as they came out? That ninja money is doing its job for sure, enjoy it while it lasts lol. What a shame he could have put that to actual good use and promoted the real FFXI. They could all be doing the exact same content on retail, theres tons of mobs in Bibiki bay for these people to smack crabs for hours to get ML50 lol

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    You wouldn't know that though because you've demonstrably never picked up a book nor educated yourself on the matter. Let me guess, overweight housewife?
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    Except the people playing this don’t want to play the “real” ff. Why is that so hard for you to understand?

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    Why would he put money towards promoting the game?

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