Predisent Donald J. Skroob: Episode X: Purple Raining to Impeachment

[archibaldcrane]

Progressives are just as bad imo.

Progressives: Gender is socially constructed!
Also Progressives: I was born a woman but born in the wrong body because I have a male brain.

Jesus Christ shut the fuck up

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[Zealot]

Progressives are just as bad imo.

Progressives: Gender is socially constructed!
Also Progressives: I was born a woman but born in the wrong body because I have a male brain.

Yeah man

Gender stuff is totally as bad as enabling impeachable activity.

These things are equivalent.

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[Salodin]

Progressives are just as bad imo.

Progressives: Gender is socially constructed!
Also Progressives: I was born a woman but born in the wrong body because I have a male brain.

You cant really believe both things are equally as bad lol

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[Ophannus]

They're both damaging to society. You get fined $250,000/prison time for misgendering folks in a few states, which includes not using whatever loony grammatically incorrect pronoun they invented for themselves.

[Gredival]

Progressives are just as bad imo.

Progressives: Gender is socially constructed!
Also Progressives: I was born a woman but born in the wrong body because I have a male brain.

This is also just not a double standard.

To say gender is socially constructed is to say that our ideas of male and female are, at least in part, societal. Not every girl wants to wear pink, play house, and have baby dolls.

This is not to say the notions of masculine and feminine do not exist, just that they are not absolute. You can see this in play with different cultures and how they have different societal norms for the genders, i.e. some countries still believing that women belong at home, that nurses are women and doctors are men, etc.

A transman can identify as male for reasons beyond the social construction of the idea of masculinity.

[Kaslo]

Progressives are just as bad imo.

Progressives: Gender ROLES are socially constructed!
Also Progressives: I was born a woman but born in the wrong body because I have a male brain.

ftfy

[Ophannus]

This is also just not a double standard.

To say gender is socially constructed is to say that our ideas of male and female are, at least in part, societal. Not every girl wants to wear pink, play house, and have baby dolls. This is not to say the notions of masculine and feminine do not exist.

A transman can identify as male for reasons beyond the social construction of the idea of masculinity.

It's a double standard because progressives say gender is socially constructed, yet many trans progressives that successfully transition, transition to a gender that conforms to the same gender stereotypes they claim are constructed, e.g. taking testoterone to grow muscles/facial hair/gets a crewcuts, tatted sleeves; and transwomen who wear dresses and have long hair to look like a classical stereotype of a cis woman. Not to mention you have a dude born male, transitions to a woman, wins Woman of the Year despite actual cis women who have been striving for that title their entire lives with a lifetime of activism to improve rights for women. Or people born as males and benefited from a male puberty (higher density bone structure, better musculature) transitioning to a woman and obliterating women in their own sports and destroying titles/records that a cis woman could never in a million years come close to. Men are better at being a woman than a woman because of these double standards. Just as detrimental to society as republicans having double standards for Trump.

[Inshiya]

It's a double standard because progressives say gender is socially constructed, yet many trans progressives that successfully transition, transition to a gender that conforms to the same gender stereotypes they claim are constructed, e.g. taking testoterone to grow muscles/facial hair/gets a crewcuts, tatted sleeves; and transwomen who wear dresses and have long hair to look like a classical stereotype of a cis woman.

Wow, you really are a fucking moron. Who touched you as a child?

Is non-binary gender really that complicated for you to understand? Seriously, how often has this honestly affected your life? Did you get fined, fired, persecuted because you didn't call someone they? No. No you didn't. Shut the fuck up with your faux outrage and RIDICULOUS comparison of the trans movement to this impeachment inquiry.

[BerenTebogo]

It's a double standard because progressives say gender is socially constructed, yet many trans progressives that successfully transition, transition to a gender that conforms to the same gender stereotypes they claim are constructed, e.g. taking testoterone to grow muscles/facial hair/gets a crewcuts, tatted sleeves; and transwomen who wear dresses and have long hair to look like a classical stereotype of a cis woman. Not to mention you have a dude born male, transitions to a woman, wins Woman of the Year despite actual cis women who have been striving for that title their entire lives with a lifetime of activism to improve rights for women. Or people born as males and benefited from a male puberty (higher density bone structure, better musculature) transitioning to a woman and obliterating women in their own sports and destroying titles/records that a cis woman could never in a million years come close to. Men are better at being a woman than a woman because of these double standards. Just as detrimental to society as republicans having double standards for Trump.

You're full-force retarded.

[Meresgi]

They're both damaging to society. You get fined $250,000/prison time for misgendering folks in a few states, which includes not using whatever loony grammatically incorrect pronoun they invented for themselves.

Name the states

[Salodin]

They're both damaging to society. You get fined $250,000/prison time for misgendering folks in a few states, which includes not using whatever loony grammatically incorrect pronoun they invented for themselves.

Hollyyyy fucking shit I think Guartz just might be beat

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[Ophannus]

The 1st amendment protects free speech. Unless you're threatening someone with violence or yelling "Fire!", there should be nothing you can't say. There are words that are extremely offensive and hurtful to say, but I don't think people should pay fines or goto prison for using them. If I can call you a piece of shit asshole, I should LEGALLY also be able to call you he/she/it/xer/faggot/dick/twat/cunt or otherwise. To fine/fire someone for calling someone "he" when they would RATHER be called "she", is extremely detrimental to society. You can say misgendering is mean/rude/dick thing to do, but it should not be a crime and in some states it is (some countries too). Legally censoring speech is incredibly, incredibly dangerous and a slippery slope, and if you can't extrapolate how censoring people from using pronouns to refer to an extremely small subset of a particular population with an infinite/unknowable number of arbitrary and subjective gender pronouns, then you are in for a surprise.

[Salodin]

The 1st amendment protects free speech. Unless you're threatening someone with violence or yelling "Fire!", there should be nothing you can't say. If I can call you a piece of shit asshole, I should LEGALLY also be able to call you he/she/it/xer/faggot/ or otherwise. To fine/fire someone for calling someone "he" when they would RATHER be called "she", is extremely detrimental to society. You can say misgendering is mean/rude/dick thing to do, but it should not be a crime. Legally censoring speech is incredibly, incredibly dangerous and a slippery slope, and if you can't extrapolate how censoring people from using pronouns to refer to an extremely small subset of a particular population with an infinite/unknowable number of arbitrary and subjective pronouns, then you are in for a surprise.

Son of a bitch WHERE IS IT A CRIME TO MISGENDER SOMEONE

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[Salodin]

Dont you fuckers start engaging with this shit for another 24hrs. Make this artard of a cunt backup its bullshit with evidence of laws designed to make it a crime to call a man a woman or a woman a man

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[Fiye]

Progressives are just as bad imo.

Progressives: Gender is socially constructed!
Also Progressives: I was born a woman but born in the wrong body because I have a male brain.

Lmao ok buddy

[Fiye]

Dont you fuckers start engaging with this shit for another 24hrs. Make this artard of a cunt backup its bullshit with evidence of laws designed to make it a crime to call a man a woman or a woman a man

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Thanks bby

[Xno Kappa]

I got fined $250,000 the other day for using ma’am in my email.

[Salodin]

Thanks bby

^_~

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[Ophannus]

Name the states

SB 219, enacted last October, was introduced by state senator Scott Weiner (D-San Francisco) and sponsored by Equality California. It penalizes senior healthcare workers who “misgender” any patients identifying as transgender by failing to address the patient by their preferred gender pronouns. Any employees who “willfully or repeatedly violate” SB 219 could be charged with a misdemeanor and subject to punishment of a $1000 fine, or even up to one year in jail.

Under the NYCHRL, gender-based harassment covers a broad range of conduct and occurs generally when a person is treated less well on account of their gender. While the severity or pervasiveness of the harassment is relevant to damages, the existence of differential treatment based on gender is sufficient under the NYCHRL to constitute a claim of harassment. Gender-based harassment can include unwanted sexual advances or requests for sexual favors; however, gender-based harassment does not have to be sexual in nature. For example, refusal to use a transgender employee’s name, pronouns, or title may constitute unlawful gender-based harassment. Comments, unwanted touching, gestures, jokes, or pictures that target a person based on gender constitute gender-based harassment. The Commission can impose civil penalties up to $125,000 for violations, and up to $250,000 for violations that are the result of willful, wanton, or malicious conduct. The amount of a civil penalty will be guided by the following factors, among others

[Roranora]

look if we let the gays marry, what's to stop someone marrying his dog