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    Quote Originally Posted by 6souls View Post
    There isn't a confirmation on whether or not they were actually his kids. All of his confirmed children are either dead or locked up.

    There was 11 other children detained in the operation.

    https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-ne...ntl/index.html




    Did they immediately raze the area afterwards or did his bomb do that much damage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by guartz View Post
    I wonder if you guys will change your minds about Trump if it comes out that lifer bureaucrats/previous admin weaponized U.S intelligence against Trump for political reasons.
    Remember when you said accusations of quid pro quo was 1 person's word against 3?

    Well, now it's two v. two.

    https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/118...683903488?s=19

    (note that Sondland isn't a lifer bureaucrat or an Obama appointee - his first position in government was being hand-picked by Trump)

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    Sondland got caught lying, because all the testimonies have been behind closed doors. Now, he knows he got caught, and is changing tunes real quick cause he disnt donate 1million for an ambassador position just to get hauled to jail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archibaldcrane View Post
    Remember when you said accusations of quid pro quo was 1 person's word against 3?

    Well, now it's two v. two.

    https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/118...683903488?s=19

    (note that Sondland isn't a lifer bureaucrat or an Obama appointee - his first position in government was being hand-picked by Trump)

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    Why is it even 2v2. Both Trump and Mulvaney have admitted to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrath View Post
    Why is it even 2v2. Both Trump and Mulvaney have admitted to it.
    Mulvaney admitted to quid pro quo for investigating 2016 election stuff, not Biden. Trump just "asked for a favor".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimmauk View Post
    Did they immediately raze the area afterwards or did his bomb do that much damage?
    It was razed after. Pretty quickly, from what I read. After the fighting was over US forces spent a little over two hours sweeping the compound for anything useful and then glassed it.

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    Stuart @ 29 minutes, they did get their candy.

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    Lol! Idiot. Kid got double candy though!


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    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/29/u...p-ukraine.html

    I honestly don't know how this Ukraine ride can get any worse but somehow it does.

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    Two guys are now saying "I think it's inappropriate" and "could harm national security".

    Riveting shit man. You gottem.

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    But saying those same things in regards to Obama, Hillary, or Biden doing "things" makes it that much more true though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by guartz View Post
    Two guys are now saying "I think it's inappropriate" and "could harm national security".

    Riveting shit man. You gottem.
    I'm not following

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koyangi View Post
    But saying those same things in regards to Obama, Hillary, or Biden doing "things" makes it that much more true though?
    You talking about Benghazi and guns that ended up over the boarder?
    Man, I remember those hearings, I remember reading about them. Democrats were never prevented from calling their own witnesses or even questioning witnesses. Schiff is doing that, that's why repubs are so upset. They think this deposition is designed to smear Trump in the media. These are suppose to be behind closed doors, but all these leaks certainly prove that point.

    You guys are all hyped up by this, not unlike what happened with Mueller. But there are facts that fundamentally favor Trump. Fact: Ukraine president and Trump both claimed no quid quo pro. Fact: Transcript doesn't show any quid quo pro. (despite theatrics from the dems) Fact: Ukrainians did not know at the time of the call that their funding was on hold. Fact: Ukrainians got their aid, took no action to date to investigate Bidens.
    Fact: Whistle blower complaint was based on by more then half dozen officials who were party to the call, so far we have heard from who was actually on the call and one who had direct knowledge - both parties voiced their suspicions and concerns, but non of them offered any substantive proof of quid quo pro. Those 4 facts remain, as far as we know, shit, most of this is behind closed doors. I don't know how people on these forums are so convinced Trump is guilty of this, it's beyond me honestly. edit: I'm lying, it's full on TDS. Like legit grade, seek counseling peeps.

    If you want an example of what investigations look like that are not pure smear jobs, look at what Durham is doing. Nary a peep nor a leek, no media smear jobs.

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    I'm just gonna go ahead and mute guartz and feel better about my informed life

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    Quote Originally Posted by guartz View Post
    You talking about Benghazi and guns that ended up over the boarder?
    Man, I remember those hearings, I remember reading about them. Democrats were never prevented from calling their own witnesses or even questioning witnesses. Schiff is doing that, that's why repubs are so upset. They think this deposition is designed to smear Trump in the media. These are suppose to be behind closed doors, but all these leaks certainly prove that point.

    You guys are all hyped up by this, not unlike what happened with Mueller. But there are facts that fundamentally favor Trump. Fact: Ukraine president and Trump both claimed no quid quo pro. Fact: Transcript doesn't show any quid quo pro. (despite theatrics from the dems) Fact: Ukrainians did not know at the time of the call that their funding was on hold. Fact: Ukrainians got their aid, took no action to date to investigate Bidens.
    Fact: Whistle blower complaint was based on by more then half dozen officials who were party to the call, so far we have heard from who was actually on the call and one who had direct knowledge - both parties voiced their suspicions and concerns, but non of them offered any substantive proof of quid quo pro. Those 4 facts remain, as far as we know, shit, most of this is behind closed doors. I don't know how people on these forums are so convinced Trump is guilty of this, it's beyond me honestly. edit: I'm lying, it's full on TDS. Like legit grade, seek counseling peeps.

    If you want an example of what investigations look like that are not pure smear jobs, look at what Durham is doing. Nary a peep nor a leek, no media smear jobs.
    the impeachment trial hasn't started yet. it won't happen until the house votes for formal articles of impeachment, which will happen when their investigation is over. this is more like a grand jury, where no, the defense doesn't really call witnesses.

    the actual trial is in the senate, which is when the white house will have the chance to call witnesses.

    i'm pretty sure this has been spelled out explicitly before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mallister View Post
    the impeachment trial hasn't started yet. it won't happen until the house votes for formal articles of impeachment, which will happen when their investigation is over. this is more like a grand jury, where no, the defense doesn't really call witnesses.

    the actual trial is in the senate, which is when the white house will have the chance to call witnesses.

    i'm pretty sure this has been spelled out explicitly before.
    This is true. This is also irrelevant to the GOP and its pundits. It's all about the smear, not reality.

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    oh, for sure. i'm morbidly curious how far this goes. i still dont' think he's going to be convicted, not with republicans in the senate majority. but i'd like to see them squirm nonetheless.

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    I'd actually want to see Guartz respond to this without using any whataboutism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaslo View Post
    I'm just gonna go ahead and mute guartz and feel better about my informed life
    It doesn't work because too many people reply to him

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