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    New Defense: Trump is too incompetent to abuse his power

    https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1...379415554?s=20

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    Oh shoot I forgot the funding bill expires in a matter of weeks.

    Over/under on another shutdown until the impeachment inquiry ends?

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    Quote Originally Posted by archibaldcrane View Post
    He withheld the aid, its later release doesn't make that false.

    And the fact that the pressure failed to induce an investigation doesn't mean that he wasn't withholding the aid to pressure them into investigating.

    So, thank you for confirming the basic facts of the matter.

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    You guys I paid a hitman to kill someone and they didn't do it so what I did wasn't illegal lol

    Is literally what you sound like, Guartz. I've said this before. You're taking two incidental things: 1) Aid withheld and 2) Aid released, and ignoring everything in between.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaslo View Post
    New Defense: Trump is too incompetent to abuse his power

    https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1...379415554?s=20
    that's beautiful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuronosan View Post
    You guys I paid a hitman to kill someone and they didn't do it so what I did wasn't illegal lol

    Is literally what you sound like, Guartz. I've said this before. You're taking two incidental things: 1) Aid withheld and 2) Aid released, and ignoring everything in between.
    It's not what I literally sound like, it's what your caricature of me sounds like. Hiring a hitman is illegal, asking for a favor is not. And I understand the Abuse of power angle, and with horse blinders on it certainly does look like Trump was looking for personal political gain by asking Zelensky to investigate 2016 and Bursima. However dot dot dot we have Durham and Senate hearings that give Trump good reason to do so. Persuit of justice, if you will. You guys probably have no idea what I'm talking about because MSM skims it all if it mentions it at all.
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/senat...source=twitter
    Hence Trump's concern with corruption and hold on aid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guartz View Post
    It's not what I literally sound like, it's what your caricature of me sounds like. Hiring a hitman is illegal, asking for a favor is not. And I understand the Abuse of power angle, and with horse blinders on it certainly does look like Trump was looking for personal political gain by asking Zelensky to investigate 2016 and Bursima. However dot dot dot we have Durham and Senate hearings that give Trump good reason to do so. Persuit of justice, if you will. You guys probably have no idea what I'm talking about because MSM skims it all if it mentions it at all.
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/senat...source=twitter
    Hence Trump's concern with corruption and hold on aid.
    Err, asking someone to investigate or otherwise damage the credibility of a political rival whether it's a favor or not is illegal dude. Mainstream Media doesn't tell me that. The law does.

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    Trump is 3 years in office, why wait to do it until now? Biden's comments were very public and made quite some time ago.

    Why stonewall the investigation completely? The assumption seems to be that the Senate would not possibly convict even if the House does impeach so why obstruct the investigation at every turn?

    The articles of impeachment approved against Nixon had little to do with the Watergate break in, he was impeached for obstruction of justice, abuse of power, and contempt of Congress.



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    Trump had good reason to do so because the AG he hired to downplay the Mueller investigation and has a lot to lose in the impeachments trial has, in fact, hired someone to come up with evidence saying Trump had a good reason to do it. Even though he's either turned up about as much as Trey Gowdy turned up in the Benghazi hearings, or because he's somehow plugged all the leaks of the past 3 years. Forgive me for not buying the latter. You continue to base your opinion on an investigation that's revealed nothing and ignore the mountain if evidence presented to you.

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    Well, let me put it to you guys this way. If Trump is not removed from office and takes 2020, the next investigation to dominate US news will be of most of Obama admin, including the previous Ukraine delegation and probably Obama himself. You guys should really be paying attention to this. The amount of implicit illegal activities that are dripped quietly is staggering.

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    Please elaborate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zealot View Post
    Please elaborate.

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    I hope you're ready for hard hitting red district reporting.

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    When the emoluments come through

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    Guartz the amount of outright illegal activity associated with Trump and those closest to him is staggering.

    I understand you aren't exposed to it because for whatever reason the entire 40 years he and his criminal dealings have been public knowledge were banished from memory as soon as he won the Republican nomination. But ignorance of the facts does nothing to erase that Trump has throughout his entire life been called out for:

    -Fraud
    -Tax evasion
    -Sexual Assault
    -Obstruction of Justice
    -Falsifying records
    -Breach of contract
    -Federal violations of anti-discrimination laws

    As for those close to him? Roger Stone, Paul Manafort, Michael Flynn, Rick Gates, Michael Cohen, and George Papadopoulos, among others. His allegation that Baltimore is 'rat-infested?" Every building in the city owned by Jared Kushner - EVERY building - is under investigation for ignoring years of reports of mold and rodent infestations. Kellyanne Conway has violated the Hatch Act. Betsy DeVos was just found in contempt of court.

    So I'll understand if you can elaborate on a hidden warren of Obama-era crimes we've somehow overlooked and for whatever reason were not investigated before this point- I notice both Clintons remain out of jail as well- but I'm going to ask that you acknowledge the litany of abuse and flagrant disregard for the law Trump has exhibited his entire life first.

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    Here's a screencap of The_Durham subreddit. Just look at the website links. Gateway pundit. The Federalist. The Daily Caller. Breitbart. That's all you really need to know.


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    WHATABOUT

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    The collective investigative prowess of those websites have managed to uncover leaks of rampant Obama era treason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zealot View Post
    Please elaborate.

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    Okay, I guess a brief history rewind. ah, let's do the dossier angle.

    2016
    Brennan/CIA setup a taskforce to investigate get FISA warrants for Trump/Russia collusion in 2016
    https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...ims-cia-2017-1

    2017
    Brennan testified before house, Brennan swore he didn't know who paid for the dossier or that it factored into the lets spy on trump decision.
    https://www.npr.org/2017/05/23/52959...election-meddl

    2018
    Nunes releases memo showing Brennan lied during hearing
    https://www.vox.com/2018/2/2/1695758...f-declassified

    2019
    Durham inquiry turns into criminal investigation.
    https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...its-own-russia
    Here is Clapper talking about how he was ordered by Obama to do this:

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    Let's not. That was already proven to be bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zealot View Post
    Guartz the amount of outright illegal activity associated with Trump and those closest to him is staggering.

    I understand you aren't exposed to it because for whatever reason the entire 40 years he and his criminal dealings have been public knowledge were banished from memory as soon as he won the Republican nomination. But ignorance of the facts does nothing to erase that Trump has throughout his entire life been called out for:

    -Fraud
    -Tax evasion
    -Sexual Assault
    -Obstruction of Justice
    -Falsifying records
    -Breach of contract
    -Federal violations of anti-discrimination laws

    As for those close to him? Roger Stone, Paul Manafort, Michael Flynn, Rick Gates, Michael Cohen, and George Papadopoulos, among others. His allegation that Baltimore is 'rat-infested?" Every building in the city owned by Jared Kushner - EVERY building - is under investigation for ignoring years of reports of mold and rodent infestations. Kellyanne Conway has violated the Hatch Act. Betsy DeVos was just found in contempt of court.

    So I'll understand if you can elaborate on a hidden warren of Obama-era crimes we've somehow overlooked and for whatever reason were not investigated before this point- I notice both Clintons remain out of jail as well- but I'm going to ask that you acknowledge the litany of abuse and flagrant disregard for the law Trump has exhibited his entire life first.

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    Did you just "what about this" me? btw Flynn is about to fly scott free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guartz View Post
    Did you just "what about this" me? btw Flynn is about to fly scott free.
    Oh, is the 4th time his lawyer tried the same defense gonna work this time?

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