Predisent Donald J. Skroob: Episode X: Purple Raining to Impeachment

[Dimmauk]

Volker is actually trying to say he didn't know that Investigate Burisma = Investigate the Bidens? WTF

[Salodin]

He thought it was separate, is his claim. He had to throw Sondland under the bus to do it though.

People wanted theatrics, well they're gonna get it tomorrow when Sondland testifies. It's pretty clear hes the guy who helped guiliani do the soliciting, so well see how he decides to tackle everything people are saying he did. My vote is he flips lol

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[Dimmauk]

I'm sure he will also say he didn't think investigate Burisma meant investigate Biden.

[guartz]

What I don't get is based on Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman's testimony, how is he not at very minimum guilty of insubordination? Defense Secretary Mark Esper said there will be no retaliation against whistle blowing as stated in this article: https://www.militarytimes.com/news/p...trump-inquiry/
But whistleblowing/leaking is completely different from telling Zelensky to ignore requests from U.S president. Vindman did not talk to his superiors about this, because his superiors testified they didn't know about vindman's concerns. The dude basically just sorta disagreed with the President and bitched about it to the President's political enemies. Whew lads. "I followed chain of command" lmao I believe him when he says he's not a partisan or this was politically motivated, I really do, because it's crystal clear he is just an idiot who blabbed BS to the wrong fucking guy. I honestly feel bad for him.

By the way, it's clear vindman talked to CIA guy who shall not be named and that CIA guy is the whistleblower who shall not be named because if it's who everyone thinks it is, the partisan stink will override any trump derangement anybody has ever had. This fucking guy is in such deep shit omg. I feel bad.

[Kaslo]

What I don't get is based on Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman's testimony, how is he not at very minimum guilty of insubordination? Defense Secretary Mark Esper said there will be no retaliation against whistle blowing as stated in this article: https://www.militarytimes.com/news/p...trump-inquiry/
But whistleblowing/leaking is completely different from telling Zelensky to ignore requests from U.S president. Vindman did not talk to his superiors about this, because his superiors testified they didn't know about vindman's concerns. The dude basically just sorta disagreed with the President and bitched about it to the President's political enemies. Whew lads. "I followed chain of command" lmao I believe him when he says he's not a partisan or this was politically motivated, I really do, because it's crystal clear he is just an idiot who blabbed BS to the wrong fucking guy. I honestly feel bad for him.

By the way, it's clear vindman talked to CIA guy who shall not be named and that CIA guy is the whistleblower who shall not be named because if it's who everyone thinks it is, the partisan stink will override any trump derangement anybody has ever had. This fucking guy is in such deep shit omg. I feel bad.

[Dimmauk]

What I don't get is based on Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman's testimony, how is he not at very minimum guilty of insubordination? Defense Secretary Mark Esper said there will be no retaliation against whistle blowing as stated in this article: https://www.militarytimes.com/news/p...trump-inquiry/
But whistleblowing/leaking is completely different from telling Zelensky to ignore requests from U.S president. Vindman did not talk to his superiors about this, because his superiors testified they didn't know about vindman's concerns. The dude basically just sorta disagreed with the President and bitched about it to the President's political enemies. Whew lads. "I followed chain of command" lmao I believe him when he says he's not a partisan or this was politically motivated, I really do, because it's crystal clear he is just an idiot who blabbed BS to the wrong fucking guy. I honestly feel bad for him.

By the way, it's clear vindman talked to CIA guy who shall not be named and that CIA guy is the whistleblower who shall not be named because if it's who everyone thinks it is, the partisan stink will override any trump derangement anybody has ever had. This fucking guy is in such deep shit omg. I feel bad.

Republicans are saying Vindman was insubordinate, but Morrison who did the same thing isn't. Classic

[guartz]

Republicans are saying Vindman was insubordinate, but Morrison who did the same thing isn't. Classic

Morrison isn't in the military

edit: well, anymore.

edit: no Im wrong I think, he's probably still navy intelligence. But you are still wrong.

[guartz]

Also I love the ..overly polite ways morrisson called Vindman an idiot.

[Koyangi]

This entire impeachment process when being viewed by the ones whom support what Trump did and those who do not is like this:

Someone sucker punches someone in the face.

Normal person sees that for exactly what it is.

Trump supporter will say the guys face hit his fist, therefore its his fault.

It's crazy how we can all watch the same thing and see something so totally different.

[guartz]

This entire impeachment process when being viewed by the ones whom support what Trump did and those who do not is like this:

Someone sucker punches someone in the face.

Normal person sees that for exactly what it is.

Trump supporter will say the guys face hit his fist, therefore its his fault.

It's crazy how we can all watch the same thing and see something so totally different.

nah, it's being view with a priori assumption of guilt/innocence. Guilt needs to be proven, democrats need to prove that Trump didn't care about corruption in Ukraine and just wanted to strong arm Ukraine into investigating Biden.

They haven't done it yet.

[guartz]

What's frustrating is that we are not learning a lot of facts, it's more grand standing and narrative battles from both sides then what I would expect would be in a court room. I suppose these hearings, for better or worse don't follow courtroom rules. The criticism that this is for negative press is legitimate.

[Tyche]

nah, it's being view with a priori assumption of guilt/innocence. Guilt needs to be proven, democrats need to prove that Trump didn't care about corruption in Ukraine and just wanted to strong arm Ukraine into investigating Biden.

They haven't done it yet.

I mean, if you ignore career intelligence officials that have worked under multiple presidential administrations over a grifter with a documented history of lying to the public, sure, they haven't proved anything. I guess it's just how you look at it and who you think is credible. You find Trump credible. Which is, in itself, incredible.

[Gredival]

Where was this dedication to the burden of proof and narrowly tailored investigation when Clinton was impeached?

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[Cichy]

This entire impeachment process when being viewed by the ones whom support what Trump did and those who do not is like this:

Someone sucker punches someone in the face.

Normal person sees that for exactly what it is.

Trump supporter will say the guys face hit his fist, therefore its his fault.

It's crazy how we can all watch the same thing and see something so totally different.

lol this is dumb
it's more like Dems decided Johny is a dick so he needs whether he did anything wrong or not it's his fault

[Zealot]

Nope.

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[Fiye]

lol this is dumb
it's more like Dems decided Johny is a dick so he needs whether he did anything wrong or not it's his fault

Hell yeah mask off.

[Xno Kappa]

What I don't get is based on Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman's testimony, how is he not at very minimum guilty of insubordination? Defense Secretary Mark Esper said there will be no retaliation against whistle blowing as stated in this article: https://www.militarytimes.com/news/p...trump-inquiry/
But whistleblowing/leaking is completely different from telling Zelensky to ignore requests from U.S president. Vindman did not talk to his superiors about this, because his superiors testified they didn't know about vindman's concerns. The dude basically just sorta disagreed with the President and bitched about it to the President's political enemies. Whew lads. "I followed chain of command" lmao I believe him when he says he's not a partisan or this was politically motivated, I really do, because it's crystal clear he is just an idiot who blabbed BS to the wrong fucking guy. I honestly feel bad for him.

By the way, it's clear vindman talked to CIA guy who shall not be named and that CIA guy is the whistleblower who shall not be named because if it's who everyone thinks it is, the partisan stink will override any trump derangement anybody has ever had. This fucking guy is in such deep shit omg. I feel bad.

Lol

[Guyverarmor]

lol this is dumb
it's more like Dems decided Johny is a dick so he needs whether he did anything wrong or not it's his fault

Bout fucking time you took that facade down Cichy. Thank you !

[guartz]

Where was this dedication to the burden of proof and narrowly tailored investigation when Clinton was impeached?

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Well when you find Trump's semen on Zelensky's suit let me know.

[6souls]

https://www.npr.org/2019/11/20/78094...trump-strategy

The Trump administration has ousted the executive director of the U.S. Interagency Council on Homelessness and is phasing out the program blaming the housing solutions it provides only encourages homelessness.

The latest sign that change is afoot came last week with the ouster of Matthew Doherty, executive director of the U.S. Interagency Council on Homelessness. The agency, created in 1987, is charged with coordinating the federal government's response to homelessness and working with state and local governments, as well as with the private sector, to find solutions.

"When I decided to stay in place through the transition in administrations, my commitment was to try to stay and support the team at USICH to do our best work possible together until either: the Administration told me to take my things and go; or I felt like I could not still act and speak with integrity," he wrote. "They have now told me to pack my things up and go."

At issue is a White House effort to develop a strategy to deal with homelessness, especially in California, which has seen an explosion recently in the number of people living on its streets. President Trump has called homeless encampments in the state "disgusting" and warned that their growth will "destroy" cities like San Francisco and Los Angeles.

The President also deployed a team of top aides to California in September to look for solutions. Among the options the group is considering is moving homeless individuals off the streets and into refurbished federal facilities, although it's unclear how such moves would be accomplished.

Homeless advocates are concerned because the White House effort has excluded experts inside and outside the government who have worked on homeless issues for decades. Even the U.S. Interagency Council on Homelessness, tasked with coordinating the federal response, was not involved in the California trip and has not been part of the administration's deliberations on a new strategy.

The administration wants to take a much different approach. A report released in September by the White House Council of Economic Advisers blamed the problem on "decades of misguided and faulty policies." It cited restrictive zoning laws for stifling the construction of more affordable housing, questioned the effectiveness of Housing First, and said that a larger supply of shelter space and "tolerable conditions for sleeping on the streets" encouraged homelessness.

The report also suggested that more police enforcement of vagrancy and other laws might alleviate the problem.