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    Quote Originally Posted by Xno Kappa View Post
    The optics for Dems is pretty bad too. They prop up a pretty unlikable candidate in 2016 where you either had to bend the knee, or get killed/ruined in the process. 2018 rolls around and youth and diversity come out in record numbers to change the narrative and give them the house. So what do the Dems do? They prop up more unlikable decrepit old white people for 2020.

    If you can’t understand why people aren’t excited for the election than I don’t know what to tell you.
    I didn't realize Hillary was running in 2020 my bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiye View Post
    More Hillary supports in 2008 crossed over to vote for McCain than Bernie Supports crossing over to support Trump.

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    Never said they chose to vote for Trump, they just chose not to vote. And when 30k or so viewers over 3 battleground states was the difference between Trump and Hillary, you can see how it's skeptical to toss it all on Comey when there was a loud vocal minority who flat out said if Bernie isn't their guy, no one is getting their vote.

    And I'm sure a lot of that was protest thinking Hillary would still win, and already what ten months out from the election, while not as loud they are already threatening to pull the same stunt again, consequences be damned.

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    Like Xno your point is extremely fucking retarded because those two old decript white men have the largest coalition of PoC support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xno Kappa View Post
    The optics for Dems is pretty bad too. They prop up a pretty unlikable candidate in 2016 where you either had to bend the knee, or get killed/ruined in the process. 2018 rolls around and youth and diversity come out in record numbers to change the narrative and give them the house. So what do the Dems do? They prop up more unlikable decrepit old white people for 2020.

    If you can’t understand why people aren’t excited for the election than I don’t know what to tell you.
    You call them unlikable, meanwhile Warren going from <1% to the current co-front runner proves otherwise, Bernie has a heart attack and only got stronger numbers cause of it, and somehow VP Biden has stayed in the lead even after gaffe after gaffe. People seem to like them.

    Like I said, yall might not like the front runners because your choice, specifically, is probably losing to them, but that doesnt mean dems arent listening. That means your preferred choice is unconvincing, with a sprinkle of yall spend more time complaining about others instead of trying to convince me to support the magic candidate yall actually think would do better even though, clearly, they are not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiye View Post
    Like Xno your point is extremely fucking retarded because those two old decript white men have the largest coalition of PoC support.
    For real. We have a black man and black woman running, and black people still prefer the old white VP lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melena View Post
    Never said they chose to vote for Trump, they just chose not to vote. And when 30k or so viewers over 3 battleground states was the difference between Trump and Hillary, you can see how it's skeptical to toss it all on Comey when there was a loud vocal minority who flat out said if Bernie isn't their guy, no one is getting their vote.

    And I'm sure a lot of that was protest thinking Hillary would still win, and already what ten months out from the election, while not as loud they are already threatening to pull the same stunt again, consequences be damned.

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    But if I can provide data that shows more people hopped from Hillary to McCain than Bernie to Trump shouldn't be an unreasonable assumption that more people who supported Hillary didn't vote than people who support Bernie?

    In addition just because there assholes like Jimmy Dore saying to vote for the Green Party doesn't mean there are people on other lefty shows like i dunno Chapo, Secular Talk, The Majority Report, David Pakman, and other people who are just called Breadtube who would rather support what is generally called the lesser of two evils because they're not dumb assholes.

    Pretty sure Jimmy Dore got pushed out of The Young Turks because of shit that like.

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    To be fair, that's because people are stupid, not because Biden is better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melena View Post
    Comey helped, but let's not forget that there was a shit ton of Bernie or bust. Comey just helped solidify that they were making the right decision

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    There wasn't, at least by historical standards. Bernie primary voters voted for Hillary at a significantly higher rate than Hillary primary voters in 2008 voted for Obama, for example.

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    People being too stupid to get out of their own way can mean that we get a majority outcome with objectively the worse candidate.

    Biden is worse than Warren and Warren is like my #3 at highest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir View Post
    To be fair, that's because people are stupid, not because Biden is better.
    So you're saying that a plurality of black voters are stupid got it.

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    Let's not forget Hillary didn't lose the popular vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiye View Post
    So you're saying that a plurality of black voters are stupid got it.
    If the shoe fits when it comes to politics, yes. Whatever. Biden is a worse candidate for them than at least a few of the others on stage.

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    White people who voted for Trump are stupid for thinking that he had their best interest in mind and would help them.

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    Women who voted for Trump?

    Next level stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir View Post
    Women who voted for Trump?

    Next level stupid.
    I still cannot wrap my head around women that supported and still support Trump ( my mother and all the women in my family for some reason )

    Boggles my fucking mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir View Post
    If the shoe fits when it comes to politics, yes.
    just making sure that's clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiye View Post
    just making sure that's clear.
    You're trying to make it a racist comment and that's fine. It obviously isn't. A group of people can be stupid for making stupid choices without it being because they are of that group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir View Post
    You're trying to make it a racist comment and that's fine. It obviously isn't. A group of people can be stupid for making stupid choices without it being because they are of that group.
    Agreed. Case in point, women voting for and supporting Trump.

    Have no problem with women at all but holy fuck the group of women that supports him are fucking stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir View Post
    You're trying to make it a racist comment and that's fine. It obviously isn't. A group of people can be stupid for making stupid choices without it being because they are of that group.
    I didn't make the comment you did. I'm just pointing out the connection you made.

    If you're mad that I pointed it out maybe just not say it and investigate why next time. You're a smart dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiye View Post
    I didn't make the comment you did. I'm just pointing out the connection you made.

    If you're mad that I pointed it out maybe just not say it and investigate why next time. You're a smart dude.
    I'm not mad lol I'm just pointing out the fact that you pointing it out in a pointed way misses the point

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