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    Clearly you don't realize how much power Hillary has, and how difficult it is to overthrow her secret power base that runs everything. This shit takes time my man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guartz View Post
    Tune in tomorrow lefties, should be good. I think we had handful of politicians who apposed secret courts in USA. They said that power will be abused. Let's see if those guys were right.

    *opposed
    A Guartz prediction came through...this is fucking delicious...

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    Ivanka Trump invited dossier author Chris Steele to Trump Tower in New York in 2010 to discuss the possibility of the former British intelligence officer working for the Trump Organization in doing due diligence on their business interests abroad as part of his work at Orbis.
    Oh, and the IG report found the Russia probe was justified with no political bias or improper motivation.

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    Also of note, several pro-trump FBI investigator's texts were released. One text stating, and I can't make this shit up, that they were "energized" with the election results because they "didn't want a criminal in the white house....".

    I'm sure the names of those FBI agents will be dragged through the mud and hauled in before congressional committees, like Page and Strzok....which, speaking of, were also cleared...

    "We found that while she attended some of the discussions, Lisa Page did not play a role in the decision to open Crossfire Hurricane or the four individual cases. Strzok was directly involved in the decisions to open Crossfire Hurricane and the four individual cases, but we found that he was not the sole, or even the highest level decision maker as to any of those matters."

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    Just waiting for quartz to come in here quoting Trumps lackey AG about how this was a abuse of the FISA process.

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    He will just point out that the real report that matters is the one put out by a guy that reports directly to the attorney general, both of whom have already stated they disagree with the IG findings.

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    Guys...guys...stop dogging on Guartz !

    We all know this stuff is just deep state liberal communist conspiracies and our God-Emperor Trump will guide us the way to White Heaven !

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    You know you fucked up when even Comey is dropping bombs on you

    https://twitter.com/Comey/status/120...320986114?s=19

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    ok, it's clear fake news is working overtime to spin this. I encourage you to read and the very minimum the summary

    https://www.justice.gov/storage/120919-examination.pdf

    This report is not a criminal investigation: "Our role in this review was not to second-guess discretionary judgments by Department personnel about whether to open an investigation, or specific judgment calls made during the course of an investigation, where those decisions complied with or were authorized by Department rules, policies, or procedures. " and "However, because the activities of other agencies are outside our jurisdiction, we did not seek to obtain records from them that the FBI never received or reviewed, except for a limited amount of State Department records relating to Steele; we also did not seek to assess any actions other agencies may have taken."


    Quick quotes: The reason why this report says nobody broke the law is because
    " in addition to requiring an authorized purpose, FBI investigations must have adequate factual predication before being initiated. The predication requirement is not a legal requirement but rather a prudential one imposed by Department and FBI policy. The DIOG provides for two types of investigations, Preliminary Investigations and Full Investigations"

    It's a secret court in USA with no legal repercussions for lying.

    Here are the some misrepresentations Crossfire Hurricane FBI staff gave to Court in order to spy on Trump campaign:

    "Our review found that FBI personnel fell far short of the requirement in FBI policy that they ensure that all factual statements in a FISA application are "scrupulously accurate."



    "Omitted information the FBI had obtained from another U.S. government agency detailing its prior relationship with Page, including that Page had been approved as an "operational contact" for the other agency from 2008 to 2013, and that Page had provided information to the other agency concerning his prior contacts with certain Russian intelligence officers, one of which overlapped with facts asserted in the FISA application "

    Included a source characterization statement asserting that Steele's prior reporting had been "corroborated and used in criminal proceedings," which overstated the significance of Steele's past reporting and was not approved by Steele's handling agent, as required by the Woods Procedures;

    Omitted information relevant to the reliability of Person 1, a key Steele sub-source (who was attributed with providing the information in Report 95 and some of the information in Reports 80 and 102 re lied upon in the application), namely that ( 1) Steele himself told members of the Crossfire Hurricane team that Person 1 was a "boaster" and an "egoist" and " may engage in some embellishment" and (2) REDACTED

    Asserted that the FBI had assessed that Steele did not directly provide to the press information in the September 23 Yahoo News article based on the premise that Steele had told the FBI that he only shared h is election-related research with the FBI and Fusion GPS, his client; this premise was incorrect and contradicted by documentation in the Woods File- Steele had told the FBI that he also gave his information to the State Department;

    Omitted Papadopoulos's consensually monitored statements to an FBI CHS in September 2016 denying that anyone associated with the Trump campaign was collaborating with Russia or with outside groups like Wikileaks in the release of emails;

    Omitted Page's consensually monitored statements to an FBI CHS in August 2016 that Page had " literally never met" or "said one word to" Paul Manafort and that Manafort had not responded to any of Page's emails; if true, those statements were in tension with claims in Report 95 that Page was participating in a conspiracy with Russia by acting as an intermediary for Manafort on behalf of the Trump campaign; and Included Page's consensually monitored statements to an FBI CHS in October 2016 that the FBI believed supported its theory that Page was an agent of Russia but omitted other statements Page made that were inconsistent with its theory, including denying having met with Sechin and Divyekin, or even knowing who Divyekin was; if true, those statements contradicted the claims in Report 94 that Page had met secretly with Sechin and Divyekin about future cooperation with Russia and shared derogatory information about candidate Clinton.

    And these are just the in FIRST FISA filing.


    SO when Brennan said under oath that he did nothing illegal, technically it's true. But he did lie that Steel Dossier wasn't a prime consideration. Speaking of Steel Dossier:

    "we found that the FBI and Steele held significantly differing views about the nature of their relationship. Steele's handling agent viewed Steele as a former intelligence officer colleague and FBI CHS, with obligations to the FBI. Steele, on the other hand, told us that he was a businessperson whose firm (not Steele) had a contractual agreement with the FBI and whose obligations were to his paying clients, not the FBI."

    I.E his Client was Fusion GPS which was opposition research for DNC.



    This report goes out of it's way to present this information not as malice/political bias but utter incompetence on FBI's on the ground level part. They are throwing the low hanging fruit to the wolves.

    tl:dr

    Russia investigation was a complete sham from the beginning. Trump was right.

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    Where did you copy/paste that from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by guartz View Post

    tl:dr

    Russia investigation was a complete sham from the beginning. Trump was right.
    This is so hilariously wrong that I just have to pity you at this point.

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    Why arent you responding to each and every point in order to make him realize he is concluding erroneously from the report as its presented? Why arent you giving him the benefit of the doubt, zealot? =/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zealot View Post
    This is so hilariously wrong that I just have to pity you at this point.
    To be fair you could say that about most things in response to the statement "Trump was right."

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    "This investigation which resulted in 23 indictments and criminal convictions and a recommendation to impeach was a total sham."

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    Not to mention paying for itself in funds recovered.

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    i mean there is a number there but i would be shocked if they actually get anything liquid from manafort. or have they already seized property or something?

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    They recovered around $29M total and cost about $25M.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zealot View Post
    Where did you copy/paste that from?

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    from the IG report that's linked in my post. Hate all you want, but FBI is being painted as complete morons in this report and the top level guys had no idea anything was wrong.

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    "Additionally, given the low threshold for predication in the AG Guidelines and the DIOG, we concluded that the FFG information, provided by a government the United States Intelligence Community (USIC) deems trustworthy, and describing a first- hand account from an FFG employee of a conversation with Papadopoulos, was sufficient to predicate the investigation."

    This "Friendly Foreign Government" report is why Barr and friends traveled the globe and there is now a criminal investigation resulting from it.
    Durham think there was a crime committed somewhere between USIC and FBI.

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    God how is what Ohr and his wife did not illegal is beyond me. JFC the system is broken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guartz View Post
    "Additionally, given the low threshold for predication in the AG Guidelines and the DIOG, we concluded that the FFG information, provided by a government the United States Intelligence Community (USIC) deems trustworthy, and describing a first- hand account from an FFG employee of a conversation with Papadopoulos, was sufficient to predicate the investigation."

    This "Friendly Foreign Government" report is why Barr and friends traveled the globe and there is now a criminal investigation resulting from it.
    Durham think there was a crime committed somewhere between USIC and FBI.
    Your quote literally says the foreign intelligence was deemed trustworthy and sufficient to start the investigation.

    It literally refutes everything you, and Trump and co., have said for years now.

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