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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalmado View Post
    I feel like Guartz is the guy who tp'd in str gear and wouldn't accept it was wrong.
    Nah man, these guys go on news and straight up lie to you. Look at this shit from 2 years


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    ....Yeah Guartz was def that guy...as well as putting merits in Warcry.

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    Man, there is a hearing about this in a few days, wonder if Mueller investigation will come up.. Hmph.

    Totally exonerated might become reality.

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    I thought he was already totally exonerated lol.

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    guartz is that one blue mage i fought with in a garlaige basement party with as a blue mage myself, only i was using proper acc gear and stat swaps while he was taking 5 minutes (no joke) to get tp for red lotus blade > bludgeon fusion combo as blu/nin.

    needless to say the party eventually booted him because he was a dick thinking he was the best blue mage ever parsing (again, no joke) 2% on parse. the drgs wyvern was outparsing him.

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    The report literally states that despite 17 incidents of misconduct from FBI agents during the course of the investigation, they found no evidence of any political influence, nothing improper about the origins of the investigation and that there was sufficient evidence to open it.

    If your complaint is solely focused on the FISA warrant application, then I'll concede the IG does conclude that the FBI omitted or altered testimony in order to obtain it. That's highly problematic and evidences overreach by the agency. As for the rest of it, the report unambiguously states that there was nothing improper about the investigation or the reasons for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guartz View Post
    it's funny how you can't come up with a better snide remark that makes sense. Tbh I feel for ya, being lied to for almost 4 years gotta hurt.
    Tell me how I've been lied to about Sandy Hook.

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    I would like to get in on the bet and specify that he was probably rocking double Sun Rings, because STR is the best but wtf Victory rings are too expensive and it isn't that great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiye View Post
    Tell me how I've been lied to about Sandy Hook.

    Let me tell you about the Russian collusion conspiracy you believed for 4 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guartz View Post
    Let me tell you about the Russian collusion conspiracy you believed for 4 years.
    Hey Guartz, did Trump know russia was interfering in the 2016 election after he secured the nomination?

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    They never answer that question when asked directly =/ I've found that it's a magic pill to make the conservatards change the subject or walk away

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    Jr. literally fucking tweeted us the evidence that they were attempting to collude. Holy shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guartz View Post
    Let me tell you about the Russian collusion conspiracy you believed for 4 years.
    I'd rather you explain to BG why your entire life has been built on fear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurell View Post
    Jr. literally fucking tweeted us the evidence that they were attempting to collude. Holy shit.
    Guartz is just like his God Emperor, total denial of reality. This will not change. Him and my dad would get along great together: Two idiots thinking Trump can do no wrong.

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    What irks me the most in this situation is that the FBI did do something wrong and he only emphasized that after the narrative of "this means the entire Russia report was wrong!" was challenged.

    Guartz I will spell it out for you yet again, the Mueller report found undeniable evidence of wrongdoing, sent multiple associates of the President to prison, concluded Russia absolutely did interfere in the 2016 election on the President's behalf, left open the question of how much Trump personally knew or controlled but only due to other people not carrying out his orders to collude with a foreign power, and told Congress that since no legal remedies were available he recommended political remedies, which one could reasonably assume meant Congressional hearings and impeachment.

    Also, as has been stated, his son publicly admitted that they accepted a meeting with Russia in order to obtain dirt on Hillary.

    Every time you attack the Mueller report or the Russia investigation you look like a desperate drowning man flailing for something to hold on to while insisting that you can breathe underwater.

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    It's about to be a new decade and y'all still arguing with guartz of all people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guartz View Post
    Let me tell you about the Russian collusion conspiracy you believed for 4 years.
    If you can't tell everyone here about the truth behind what happened at Sandy Hook how can we take you at your word. You're literally withholding information that could enlighten us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guartz View Post
    ok, it's clear fake news is working overtime to spin this. I encourage you to read and the very minimum the summary

    https://www.justice.gov/storage/120919-examination.pdf

    This report is not a criminal investigation: "Our role in this review was not to second-guess discretionary judgments by Department personnel about whether to open an investigation, or specific judgment calls made during the course of an investigation, where those decisions complied with or were authorized by Department rules, policies, or procedures. " and "However, because the activities of other agencies are outside our jurisdiction, we did not seek to obtain records from them that the FBI never received or reviewed, except for a limited amount of State Department records relating to Steele; we also did not seek to assess any actions other agencies may have taken."


    Quick quotes: The reason why this report says nobody broke the law is because
    " in addition to requiring an authorized purpose, FBI investigations must have adequate factual predication before being initiated. The predication requirement is not a legal requirement but rather a prudential one imposed by Department and FBI policy. The DIOG provides for two types of investigations, Preliminary Investigations and Full Investigations"

    It's a secret court in USA with no legal repercussions for lying.

    Here are the some misrepresentations Crossfire Hurricane FBI staff gave to Court in order to spy on Trump campaign:

    "Our review found that FBI personnel fell far short of the requirement in FBI policy that they ensure that all factual statements in a FISA application are "scrupulously accurate."



    "Omitted information the FBI had obtained from another U.S. government agency detailing its prior relationship with Page, including that Page had been approved as an "operational contact" for the other agency from 2008 to 2013, and that Page had provided information to the other agency concerning his prior contacts with certain Russian intelligence officers, one of which overlapped with facts asserted in the FISA application "

    Included a source characterization statement asserting that Steele's prior reporting had been "corroborated and used in criminal proceedings," which overstated the significance of Steele's past reporting and was not approved by Steele's handling agent, as required by the Woods Procedures;

    Omitted information relevant to the reliability of Person 1, a key Steele sub-source (who was attributed with providing the information in Report 95 and some of the information in Reports 80 and 102 re lied upon in the application), namely that ( 1) Steele himself told members of the Crossfire Hurricane team that Person 1 was a "boaster" and an "egoist" and " may engage in some embellishment" and (2) REDACTED

    Asserted that the FBI had assessed that Steele did not directly provide to the press information in the September 23 Yahoo News article based on the premise that Steele had told the FBI that he only shared h is election-related research with the FBI and Fusion GPS, his client; this premise was incorrect and contradicted by documentation in the Woods File- Steele had told the FBI that he also gave his information to the State Department;

    Omitted Papadopoulos's consensually monitored statements to an FBI CHS in September 2016 denying that anyone associated with the Trump campaign was collaborating with Russia or with outside groups like Wikileaks in the release of emails;

    Omitted Page's consensually monitored statements to an FBI CHS in August 2016 that Page had " literally never met" or "said one word to" Paul Manafort and that Manafort had not responded to any of Page's emails; if true, those statements were in tension with claims in Report 95 that Page was participating in a conspiracy with Russia by acting as an intermediary for Manafort on behalf of the Trump campaign; and Included Page's consensually monitored statements to an FBI CHS in October 2016 that the FBI believed supported its theory that Page was an agent of Russia but omitted other statements Page made that were inconsistent with its theory, including denying having met with Sechin and Divyekin, or even knowing who Divyekin was; if true, those statements contradicted the claims in Report 94 that Page had met secretly with Sechin and Divyekin about future cooperation with Russia and shared derogatory information about candidate Clinton.

    And these are just the in FIRST FISA filing.


    SO when Brennan said under oath that he did nothing illegal, technically it's true. But he did lie that Steel Dossier wasn't a prime consideration. Speaking of Steel Dossier:

    "we found that the FBI and Steele held significantly differing views about the nature of their relationship. Steele's handling agent viewed Steele as a former intelligence officer colleague and FBI CHS, with obligations to the FBI. Steele, on the other hand, told us that he was a businessperson whose firm (not Steele) had a contractual agreement with the FBI and whose obligations were to his paying clients, not the FBI."

    I.E his Client was Fusion GPS which was opposition research for DNC.



    This report goes out of it's way to present this information not as malice/political bias but utter incompetence on FBI's on the ground level part. They are throwing the low hanging fruit to the wolves.

    tl:dr

    Russia investigation was a complete sham from the beginning. Trump was right.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zealot View Post
    Where did you copy/paste that from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by guartz View Post
    from the IG report that's linked in my post. Hate all you want, but FBI is being painted as complete morons in this report and the top level guys had no idea anything was wrong.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zealot View Post
    No, that report is 476 pages long and you haven't read it. I'm asking where you copied "your" analysis from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guartz View Post
    I downloaded the pdf on my phone, came out around noon. Been keeping my eye on the website since 10. I should have been working but shh, boss doesn't know.

    I haven't read any articles about it, if that's what your asking?
    To answer Zealot's question since guartz won't. He copied it almost word for word from here: https://saraacarter.com/president-tr...tzs-list-here/

    In the bullet point section. He will say he quoted from the same source so it looks the same, but the order was even the same.

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    Thank you Yabby.

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