Overwatch (2) - October 4, 2022

[Tomiko]

Is anyone actually defending this or are you just making it up in your head?

Only one I've seen (Ryko pointed it out to me):

https://twitter.com/Reinforce/status...51884922363904

[Karbuncle]

I’ve seen some defenses in the replies of tweets but they’re usually ratiod quite hard. But the Blizzard shills are out in full damage control copium mode, just not the prevailing opinion, everyone aside from that dude above that I’ve seen has been massively disappointed and wondering what the fucks been happening for the last 4 years.

[Lucavi]

Is anyone actually defending this or are you just making it up in your head?

Short answer: yes. Especially those who's fucking paycheck comes from covering the game. There are always simps for megacorps, so long as they get their drip-feed of content. I'm not sure why this is so hard for you to process. Hardcore fans exist for things, Krandor. They exist. They defend the thing they like; often times to the death. Process it for once in your life, for fuck's sake.

If you want me to do your homework for you, go look up Your Overwatch. Listen to the creator: read the fucking comments.

@Karbuncle: What's happened for the last 4 years is a combination of brain drain and people getting the fuck out of the company because the brass at the top are making it hilariously obvious that they don't give a shit about the workers and are only focused on max profits for every IP they own. The forced Return to Office initiatives were a seriously big blow to morale, and not just for the OW team. You can watch a billion WoW youtubers who posted videos about it about 2 months ago. I personally know 4 Blizzard employees who left over the last 3 years: the earliest being right around the time Blizzard caught shit for being unable to keep their fucking hands to themselves.

[Krandor]

You specifically cited reddit, and all I see in Reddit is people shitting on it. If I dig through a few thousand replies on a thread I'm sure I'd find something, but that applies to anything and isn't worth the effort unless you're in a crusade to actively upset yourself

[Andalusian girls]

yeah the reaction is overwhelming negative, Reddit mad, Twitter mad, all the game journos are covering it negatively or neutrally

man scrolling through the main Reddit thread they are (justifiably) salty as fuckin shit. 16,000 comments in 5 hours near every one mad as hell

[Meresgi]

It's amazing to hear, just about the 100th nail in the coffin for Blizzard at this point lol. Also OW2 is a literal downgrade from OW1 in so many ways.

[synistar]

I straight up uninstalled the Blizz launcher back during the Hong Kong controversy.

That was back in October 2019. Fuck that's a long time ago.

[Serra]

So there's what, three months till seasons 6, give or take? And they announce this without providing any concrete information on how it's going to work? Like, big question, how is paying for all this going to work?

Only one I've seen (Ryko pointed it out to me):

https://twitter.com/Reinforce/status...51884922363904

Not sure if you can count him as defending it, isn't he an OWL commentator - AKA, someone on their payroll?

[Tomiko]

Not sure if you can count him as defending it, isn't he an OWL commentator - AKA, someone on their payroll?

Yeah, which is likely the only reason he's defending it.

Otherwise, I don't think I've seen anyone defending it. Everything has been anger.

[Rulke]

Don't worry, Diablo 4 will be out soon. I am certain it will be everything they said it will be.

[Lucavi]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitive...t_the_changes/

Trying to get ahead of the rumors, I guess.

A bit late for that, methinks. The fans are going to have their pound of flesh for this one, at least until a new DVA skin comes out. Now might be the time to break the glass and introduce the summer beachwear skins. Apex players were begging for them last season when things were looking bleak, although the current season has been a good time thus far.

For the record, the RTO excuse doesn't hold water. No matter how poorly Blizzard handled the RTO decision, this decision was solidified before Kaplan left, most likely. The big rumors are that it was before OW2 was released, which sounds less like a rumor and more like the truth they just won't admit.

[Rulke]

[Lucavi]

"….as we were running up to launching Overwatch 2, we realized that we could not build that other game. We couldn’t save up all of that content over the course of what was looking to be at least the next several years to finish it, and by doing that, pulling more and more resources away from the people that were all playing our game and all the people that would be playing Overwatch 2. So we made a decision later last year that we would focus all of our efforts on the live running game and all of our PvE efforts on this new story arc that we’re launching in Season 6. And then on top of that, to keep all of our PvE efforts, all of our co-op efforts, invested in our seasonal releases rather than that one big boxed release."

Straight from the horse's mouth. I wonder if admitting that you had no feasible ability to deliver on the promises you sold to players is admissable in court for a Class Action lawsuit?

[Cantih]

Straight from the horse's mouth. I wonder if admitting that you had no feasible ability to deliver on the promises you sold to players is admissable in court for a Class Action lawsuit?

I hope we find out.

[Tomiko]

"….as we were running up to launching Overwatch 2, we realized that we could not build that other game. We couldn’t save up all of that content over the course of what was looking to be at least the next several years to finish it, and by doing that, pulling more and more resources away from the people that were all playing our game and all the people that would be playing Overwatch 2. So we made a decision later last year that we would focus all of our efforts on the live running game and all of our PvE efforts on this new story arc that we’re launching in Season 6. And then on top of that, to keep all of our PvE efforts, all of our co-op efforts, invested in our seasonal releases rather than that one big boxed release."

Straight from the horse's mouth. I wonder if admitting that you had no feasible ability to deliver on the promises you sold to players is admissable in court for a Class Action lawsuit?

Source is a Game. Sp0t interview for anyone else interested. I tried limnking it, but didn't realize it fell under the Eye Gee Enn ban (neat notice though).

[Serra]

"[I]Straight from the horse's mouth. I wonder if admitting that you had no feasible ability to deliver on the promises you sold to players is admissable in court for a Class Action lawsuit?

Sold to players? The game's F2P. The only expenses are the battle passes, which deliver on being battle passes, and cosmetics, which deliver on being cosmetics.

Were there any successful class action lawsuits around Anthem or No Man's Sky? Cause if the answer is no, there's your answer.

[Tomiko]

My thought is it would be referring to [some] players only buying the BP/Cosmetics to make sure they had them when PvE eventually released due to their limited availability and just tolerating the PvP in the meantime. There is a non-zero number of players who would have quit completely before OW2 launched if they knew PvE was never coming. Myself being one of them.

Kaslo might know more about the validity even though this isn't in his field (that I know of).

[Tyrath]

Who the fuck just tolerates a game for a year hoping for cosmetics in the PvE section. Like, why you doing this to yourself.

[Tomiko]

Sunken cost fallacy is a hell of a drug. I mainly logged in for the PvE storymode reruns and for a couple weeks when I would play with Serra. I quit and uninstalled months ago though when I finally had enough.

[Tyrath]

Good good.

The tone of my post seemed more aggressive than I meant for it to lol