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    Quote Originally Posted by Koyangi View Post
    nothing will fundamentally change for the better or worse
    I agree except that I feel like new players being locked out of Ana, Sombra, Moira, Orisa, Doomfist, Sigma, Hammond, Ashe, Echo, Sojourn, Brig, and Baptiste is a fundamental change for the worse for both them and their teammates. The only way Competitive can possibly be balanced with this crap is just not letting people play competitive unless they have every hero unlocked already.

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    I was more meaning the toxic environment and stuff like that. Gating the characters in that fashion is shitty either way, because now you can't be new and want to be competitive without doing extra hoops.

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    the worst part is they're not listening, they're doing w/e the fuck they want

    not a good sign for the future

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koyangi View Post
    I was more meaning the toxic environment and stuff like that. Gating the characters in that fashion is shitty either way, because now you can't be new and want to be competitive without doing extra hoops.
    Ah, well, this is correct then lol. Competitive will still be a shit fest now just for some reason even moooooooooore toxic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    so competitive will just be ow1 players that are frustrated at new players for not having picks

    got it
    They're saying it'll take 100 matches to unlock all heroes, and it takes 50 wins in QP to unlock comp, so there's a good chance a lot of players won't have comp unlocked before they unlock all the heroes.

    Still a stupid change.

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    Started playing OW1 on a whim cause I was bored, and kinda glad I did cause I forgot all about ow2 and how OW1 was sunsetting (but not closing servers). Had some fun games, forgot how fun custom games could be, and I hope they turn this around but I sure ain't holding my breathe.

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    I could have bought an 11 pull and have 1000 gems left over, but all I got was this silly title.

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    im glad Dinoflask is still doing this bit haha

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    I missed watching his stuff and this is golden lol.

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    there was a lot of superfluous bullshit around Overwatch and the evolution of the meta wasn't great but spent many dozens if not a couple hundred hours in the bitch, ballin ass game at its best

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    This video showed up in my YT feed. Either I never heard of this PvE stuff (this much detail of it) before or it's been so long that I forgot about it, but it sounds like everything I hoped for. He starts talking about it just after the 4 min mark and there's actual video footage of it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Andalusian girls View Post
    there was a lot of superfluous bullshit around Overwatch and the evolution of the meta wasn't great but spent many dozens if not a couple hundred hours in the bitch, ballin ass game at its best
    Yeah, if Blizzard had actually supported it rather than starting work on its sequel after the first year, Overwatch could have been so much more. If only..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andalusian girls View Post
    there was a lot of superfluous bullshit around Overwatch and the evolution of the meta wasn't great but spent many dozens if not a couple hundred hours in the bitch, ballin ass game at its best
    Was talking with a OW group the other day about this. This game had so many bad moments, but there's just something about a game that prioritizes teamwork that feels so good when you get it right, especially if your team is 6 people big. It really reminds me of the magic of FFXI back in the day, but just like with that there was so much bad to go with the good that idk how I really feel about it in the end.

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    I still put 700 hours in so it did something right

    I did that with 3-6 friends at all times though, so that's not nothing. We talk all the time about finding another game but there's nothing that's always there and ready for us to drop into.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomiko View Post
    This video showed up in my YT feed. Either I never heard of this PvE stuff (this much detail of it) before or it's been so long that I forgot about it, but it sounds like everything I hoped for. He starts talking about it just after the 4 min mark and there's actual video footage of it.

    PVE was basically like, the very first thing OW2 was billed on. Like the original OW2 announcement/gameplay trailer was entirely around the PVE side of things, they even had a preview for an entire stage at one point, showcasing the loot drops and some of the hero customizations. But yah, that was years ago lol.

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    Current discourse is that people who bought game were allowed to preload while f2p have to wait until servers go live. The paid version includes all of the OW1 characters, some skins, and a battlepass skip for $40.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6souls View Post
    Current discourse is that people who bought game were allowed to preload while f2p have to wait until servers go live. The paid version includes all of the OW1 characters, some skins, and a battlepass skip for $40.
    But if you have the original you also get all the original stuff, no?

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    Original stuff yes, no battle pass though, which is why Blizzard caved and started allowing refunds on the game after they announced the starter pack.

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