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    although I wasn’t really looking for weed because i started drinking at like 15

    working at a hotel and having access to the bar and the liquor closet was probably bad

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    They don't understand what nicotine does, or how much they're consuming, and that is an actual issue.

    How many smokers, ie cigarette smokers, you know go through a whole pack in a single day, let alone multiple packs in a day.

    I'm also confused about the living with an alcoholic comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tokitoki View Post
    My issue with vaping is the flavored cartridges and the way they're marketed. You have more kids taking up vaping now than were taking up smoking in several years. If you're 18 and decide to vape, that's on you, but kids are doing this shit and going through 1+ packs worth of nicotine in a single day.
    It should be at least as hard for kids to get alcohol as it is to vape.

    I'm not saying that it's hard to get alcohol as a kid, but it's harder than it is to get cigarettes. You're never gonna get kids to not do shit they shouldn't do. That's a pipe dream.

    Stuff should be regulated more heavily. Outlaw something cuz kids are doing it? I mean, c'mon.

    impossible until i was like 18 honestly
    If anyone wants to say that it was hard getting weed if you wanted it the only response is that you're a loser who had no friends honestly
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    Little bastards. I bet they eat sugar too and processed food too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tokitoki View Post
    They don't understand what nicotine does, or how much they're consuming, and that is an actual issue.

    How many smokers, ie cigarette smokers, you know go through a whole pack in a single day, let alone multiple packs in a day.

    I'm also confused about the living with an alcoholic comment.
    One of the big things people have against smoking in general is smoking around other people / around kids. Where's the same uproar about drinking around kids? Especially to excess as many do in their homes?

    That's all. It's far, far worse being around that shit than it is to be around smoking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Day View Post
    i've kicked my physical addiction to nicotine, haven't had nicotine in 3-4 months, mental addiction to weed however.... I spend 600 dollars a month and smoke 24/7 so
    I'm back to smoking just one cigarette a day, just one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir View Post
    It should be at least as hard for kids to get alcohol as it is to vape.

    I'm not saying that it's hard to get alcohol as a kid, but it's harder than it is to get cigarettes. You're never gonna get kids to not do shit they shouldn't do. That's a pipe dream.

    Stuff should be regulated more heavily. Outlaw something cuz kids are doing it? I mean, c'mon.




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    The last few times we had this discussion pretty much everyone agreed that more regulation should be done, myself included. I think Bane was the only one that said to ban it outright.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir View Post
    One of the big things people have against smoking in general is smoking around other people / around kids. Where's the same uproar about drinking around kids? Especially to excess as many do in their homes?

    That's all. It's far, far worse being around that shit than it is to be around smoking.
    I'm not sure what qualifies as an "uproar." Alcoholism can lead to abuse and I am sure that there are multiple outlets that can be contacted regarding this for all sorts of family members and other people effected.

    Like I said, my mom was an alcoholic. It was terrible, I fought with her about it constantly, and it fucked up my brother. I am definitely an advocate for getting your shit under control with alcohol as well.

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    it's already regulated some and definitely already illegal to sell to minors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tokitoki View Post
    I'm not sure what qualifies as an "uproar." Alcoholism can lead to abuse and I am sure that there are multiple outlets that can be contacted regarding this for all sorts of family members and other people effected.

    Like I said, my mom was an alcoholic. It was terrible, I fought with her about it constantly, and it fucked up my brother. I am definitely an advocate for getting your shit under control with alcohol as well.
    yet you aren't calling for a ban on birthday cake flavored vodka are you

    or your sours in a can with fancy colorful artwork certainly not marketed to boomers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tokitoki View Post
    I'm not sure what qualifies as an "uproar." Alcoholism can lead to abuse and I am sure that there are multiple outlets that can be contacted regarding this for all sorts of family members and other people effected.

    Like I said, my mom was an alcoholic. It was terrible, I fought with her about it constantly, and it fucked up my brother. I am definitely an advocate for getting your shit under control with alcohol as well.
    The problem with this is that it almost always leads to getting CPS involved and at least some time separated from your family.

    Even abused kids largely don't want this. Especially young ones. The system doesn't properly address the issue.

    Like I said, I'd rather have cancer at 50.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Day View Post
    it's already regulated some and definitely already illegal to sell to minors
    It could be regulated more though, and probably should. If you're an adult it won't impact your life any extra to just actually show your ID and have it scanned instead of some dude just looking at you and going "nah you're okay". The penalties for selling tobacco to minors are not the same as selling alcohol.

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    i'd be more interested in regulation on the contents of the vape juice than anything, half that shit is being made in someone's basement probably. I know they introduced some regs around this already but I was always sketched buying from these small "boutique" juices people on the forums would hype

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    Quote Originally Posted by Day View Post
    i'd be more interested in regulation on the contents of the vape juice than anything, half that shit is being made in someone's basement probably. I know they introduced some regs around this already but I was always sketched buying from these small "boutique" juices people on the forums would hype
    probably should be at least as difficult to get that shit delivered from the internet as it is to get weed delivered too (or alcohol).

    in MA we don't allow alcohol delivery of any sort. And, with weed being legal, my friends still have have fucking apps that delete messages after you read them and stupid coded language and shit to have weed delivered to them because it isn't legal to have it delivered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Day View Post
    yet you aren't calling for a ban on birthday cake flavored vodka are you

    or your sours in a can with fancy colorful artwork certainly not marketed to boomers
    What Sath said on regulation.

    I'm not calling on a ban on anything. There are other actions to take to limit exposure to kids, and many of those have already been taken for cigarettes and alcohol. They limit advertising times on TV, they can't advertise in certain publications, etc.

    Advertisement for most of the beer I drink, or craft beer in general, is very limited. You get your Bud, Coors, etc. running ads during sporting events, but you're not seeing Sloop Brewing Co. advertising their Sloop Jam: Boomshakalaka even locally. You can find it on their website, but then you're specifically going out of your way to look for it. Same with a lot of beers, you're really only seeing them if you walk into a distributor.

    Vaping doesn't have the regulations in place that these other industries have, or at least didn't when they started up and were able to reach an audience they should not have had access to.

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    I cannot stand to even be around drunk people, the memories from childhood are not anything I ever want to revisit.

    I don't even smoke weed and I'd rather be around people who are high than drunk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Day View Post
    i'd be more interested in regulation on the contents of the vape juice than anything, half that shit is being made in someone's basement probably. I know they introduced some regs around this already but I was always sketched buying from these small "boutique" juices people on the forums would hype
    I'd also be okay with this.

    If you can regulate what goes in it, and offer zero nicotine for most of the flavors you offer, that would go a long way to solving the issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tokitoki View Post
    What Sath said on regulation.

    I'm not calling on a ban on anything. There are other actions to take to limit exposure to kids, and many of those have already been taken for cigarettes and alcohol. They limit advertising times on TV, they can't advertise in certain publications, etc.

    Advertisement for most of the beer I drink, or craft beer in general, is very limited. You get your Bud, Coors, etc. running ads during sporting events, but you're not seeing Sloop Brewing Co. advertising their Sloop Jam: Boomshakalaka even locally. You can find it on their website, but then you're specifically going out of your way to look for it. Same with a lot of beers, you're really only seeing them if you walk into a distributor.

    Vaping doesn't have the regulations in place that these other industries have, or at least didn't when they started up and were able to reach an audience they should not have had access to.
    tbf, kids shows were sponsored by Marlboro and shit back in the day

    Also, candy cigarettes. Do those still exist? I doubt it lol.

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    i dont know of any juice brand that doesn't already offer 0 nic btw, (i dont know about juuls and all that shit, that's for normies)

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