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    Quote Originally Posted by 6souls View Post
    https://apnews.com/f1c1c2944172b97d09b8b62345fa4031

    SCOTUS will hear arguments today about the release of Trump's tax, bank, and financial records.
    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/12/supr...rds-cases.html

    The DoJ & Trump's attorneys claim that Trump is "above criminal law."

    The Supreme Court appeared divided on Tuesday during arguments in a set of cases over whether President Donald Trump can shield his tax records from state and congressional investigators.

    Attorneys for the president faced skepticism from both liberals and conservatives over whether allowing Trump to keep his tax records shielded would unconstitutionally limit the power of Congress or put the president above the law.

    The president’s personal lawyer, Jay Sekulow, who argued in the Vance case, said that Trump cannot be criminally charged by a state prosecutor while in office, much less subjected to a grand jury subpoena.

    “The president isn’t above the law,” Justice Elena Kagan told him.

    Several of the court’s conservatives, though, expressed concern that rulings against Trump could open up the presidency to a wave of burdensome investigations and requests for documents.

    In the first argument of the day, over the congressional subpoenas, Roberts and Gorsuch joined the court’s four Democratic appointees in pressing Trump’s personal attorney Patrick Strawbridge and a Justice Department lawyer about their arguments for allowing Trump to keep the documents from investigators.

    The cases involve subpoenas for Trump’s financial records issued by Democratic-led congressional committees to the president’s accounting firm, Mazars USA, and banks, Deutsche Bank and Capital One.

    The committees have said they are pursuing investigations into potential money laundering, foreign interference in U.S. politics and whether Trump has properly disclosed his assets. Attorneys for Trump have asked the Supreme Court to reject the subpoenas on the basis that House Democrats lack a legitimate reason for investigating him.

    Gorsuch and Roberts pressed Strawbridge, as well as DOJ attorney Jeffrey Wall, on why the court should not defer to Congress on whether it has a valid reason for its subpoenas.

    “Why should we not defer to the House’s views about its own legislative purposes?” Gorsuch pointedly asked Strawbridge at one point. “Why is this subpoena not supported by a substantial legislative need?”

    Roberts skeptically asked Wall whether the court should “be probing the mental processes of the legislators.”

    “Should members of House committees be subject to cross examination on why you were really seeking the documents?” Roberts asked.

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    They have been doing this for years at this point.

    I spent the day marathoning the "Trump Con Law" podcast today and appreciating how far we haven't come and how much shit I have entirely forgotten.

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...6e5_story.html

    The judge has placed a hold on DOJ's request to dismiss the case because it's contemptible bullshit.

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    Manafort has been released from prison due to covid. He will serve the rest of his sentence under house arrest.

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    Not surprised, but still. WTF

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    Don't forget he didn't have a very long sentence to begin with. Not like he's getting house arrest after being sentenced to life in jail.

    Considering his age and the honest to goodness threat the virus is, and the sentence he already got for his crimes,, itd be kinda cruel to confine him to jail imo.

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    Is this something I missed? Is every at risk prisoner across the country being released?

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    https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/...t-15266610.php

    Jared says that delaying the election is being considered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6souls View Post
    https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/...t-15266610.php

    Jared says that delaying the election is being considered.
    But then walked it back (he's not in control of that anyway, Congress would have to pass a new federal law to change it)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurell View Post
    Is this something I missed? Is every at risk prisoner across the country being released?
    I support other jails doing this for their better behavior inmates, during the pandemic. And some have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6souls View Post
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    Jared says that delaying the election is being considered.
    ELECTION DELAYED INDEFINITELY

    Literally cannot do that without people rioting in the streets over it. Fucking idiots.

    Fuck anyone who thinks not voting for Biden is the right thing to do.

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    Except the president can't do it. Delaying the election would require an act of Congress, and from what I've read, the States have the right to say fuck your delay, and still have their state elections to vote on the President on the third anyways. Would be absolutely hilarious if Trump lost 270-0 due to some states delaying and others not.

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    According to the Constitution, a President has to be named on 1/20 every four years. If there's no election his term would simply expire.

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    Which actually, maybe not a bad option? Don't hold the election, he gets to pocket all the campaign cash (or "donate" it to "charity"), say he wouldn't place tens of millions of Americans in danger, no risk of loss, and he gets to grift all the stupid people across America who gave him money one more time.

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    trump and his kids (and their kids and their kids) will be grifting people online/in stores until the end of time

    trump presidency merchandise will become the new confederate flag for southerners to rally around to spite the liberal north

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    I remember reading the presidency would fall to some democratic senator who’s name I can’t remember if there’s no election and Trumptio’s time expires.

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    It would be the Speaker of the House on January 20th, so Pelosi. If she wasn't eligible it would be the President Pro Tempore of the Senate, Chuck Grassley.

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    i think you guys are forgetting the nepotism clause in Article 1 giving the president's son-in-law broad authority to determine electoral scheduling so long as he married the hot daughter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andalusian girls View Post
    i think you guys are forgetting the nepotism clause in Article 1 giving the president's son-in-law broad authority to determine electoral scheduling so long as he married the hot daughter
    34D chess right here.

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    All hail President Grassley.

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