President Sonic T. Hedgehog: Episode XI: #TEAMSONIC2020

[guartz]

Trump's strategy has always been an electoral victory. But I'm curious

So what do you think will happen when the democrats decide on a single candidate? Because right now Trump is measured against all the potential candidates.

[Guyverarmor]

I guess it helped Trump if you live in a bizarro fantasy land where all information means the exact opposite of what it does in reality.

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Don't fucking do it Zealot...don't waste your time on him. I finally learned just to ignore the guy.

[Zealot]

Fine.

Here's something else.

https://www.ecowatch.com/forever-che...644584514.html

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[Zealot]

Maybe a few more of the best people.

https://www.courthousenews.com/trump...x-trafficking/

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[kuronosan]

Don't fucking do it Zealot...don't waste your time on him. I finally learned just to ignore the guy.

Don't forget to let him propagate his bullshit by not challenging it.

Wouldn't want to push away conservatives.

[Karbuncle]

Don't forget to let him propagate his bullshit by not challenging it.

Wouldn't want to push away conservatives.

Literally all you have to do is just not insult him as a person. You can challenge everything he says.

You may never convert him, but don't consider converting Guartz as the goal here. When it comes to challenge someones ideas, your rarely challenge ideas to convert the ones speaking them(though its a nice bonus), you challenge them to try and educate the ones who, probably lurking, are listening whats being said. Its not as hopeless as it might seem, I'm sure there are a few lurkers here who do have their minds changed by evidence and counter-points.

[Psion]

that would require there to be an actual point and evidence presented in the first place.


just ignore guartz, guys. all he wants is attention, and he has lost any right to it.

(also count me in as another vote for mods suck. the entire point of the rules is to foster intelligent, interesting debates on this forum. if someones lawyering the rules and messing things up, you don't play their game, you boot them out, fairness be damned.)

[Ksandra]

Literally all you have to do is just not insult him as a person. You can challenge everything he says.

Yep.

[guartz]

Eh, they only pull this "It's not worth arguing with you" shit when they know I'm right and don't have a good answer. Trump totally gained from the impeachment because his strategy is an electoral victory again.

unless of course, he actually gets removed. That's always on the table.

[Byrthnoth]

unless of course, he actually gets removed. That's always on the table.

lmao, that was never on the table.

The argument was always whether Democrats should impeach him to win the moral battle (lefties) vs. not for cynical political reasons (moderates).

[guartz]

I don't know, the man is very much against the grain in Washington. I suspect he might get removed, there are so many overlapping loyalties and interests in Congress that go beyond simple party divide.

[Byrthnoth]

No

There are more than 50 people in the Senate that would get primaried out of the best job they're ever likely to have if they voted to impeach. Removing isn't even in the cards.

[Tyrath]

LOL he has the whole GOP cucked. He's not getting removed.

[Roranora]

I don't know, the man is very much against the grain in Washington. I suspect he might get removed, there are so many overlapping loyalties and interests in Congress that go beyond simple party divide.

You'll have to forgive my friend; he's a little slow. The town is back -that- way.

[Zealot]

Eh, they only pull this "It's not worth arguing with you" shit when they know I'm right and don't have a good answer. Trump totally gained from the impeachment because his strategy is an electoral victory again.

unless of course, he actually gets removed. That's always on the table.

You are in no way correct and have provided nothing to demonstrate otherwise. Trump's approval rating has been stagnant for over a year.

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[Zealot]

People who would have given Trump money eventually anyway gave it to him a little sooner. Democrats also had record breaking hauls, Sanders at this point has more money from individual donors than anyone in history. Buttigieg is taking in that big donor money. And in the end donation totals are irrelevant in any race that includes a self-funded Bloomberg

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[kuronosan]

guartz: "I'm bleeding, making me the victor."

[6souls]

https://apnews.com/9a4a6d6f21b48375b762b88587c45411

Russia hacked Ukraine's Burisma Holdings gas company that is tied to Hunter Biden.

Russian agents launched a phishing campaign in early November to steal the login credentials of employees of Burisma Holdings, the gas company, according to Area 1 Security, a Silicon Valley company that specializes in email security.

Hunter Biden, son of former U.S. vice president and Democratic presidential hopeful Joe Biden, previously served on Burisma’s board.

It was not clear what the hackers were looking for or may have obtained, said Area 1′s CEO, Oren Falkowitz, who called the findings “incontrovertible” and posted an eight-page report. But the timing of the operation suggests that the Russian agents could be searching for material damaging to the Bidens or perhaps scheming to plant misinformation.

“Our report doesn’t make any claims as to what the intent of the hackers were, what they might have been looking for, what they are going to do with their success. We just point out that this is a campaign that’s going on,” said Falkowitz, a former National Security Agency offensive hacker whose company’s clients include candidates for U.S. federal elected offices. In an earlier interview, he told The Associated Press that the campaigns of top candidates for the U.S. presidency and House and Senate races in 2020 have in the past few months each been targeted by about a thousand phishing emails.

Russian hackers from the same military intelligence unit that Area 1 said was behind the operation targeting Burisma have been indicted for hacking emails from the Democratic National Committee and the chairman of Hillary Clinton’s campaign during the 2016 presidential race.

[6souls]

Chinese tariffs will remain in place until after the 2020 election.

[Salodin]

Impeachment trial starts next tuesday, according to a journalist on twitter.

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