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    Quote Originally Posted by Gadritan View Post
    First time getting into politics?

    This is exactly what's wrong with our system. Would the left adamantly defend a Dem president if he were impeached despite overwhelming evidence that he was guilty and cast their morals aside?

    Well, yes. That's exactly what happened.

    It's not a left or right problem. It's just a fucking problem.

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    I would like to think if Obama was asking another country to look up dirt so he could get re-elected (And wouldn't give aid until done so), that there would at least be a few democrats that would break the line (See how quickly they turned on Al Franken?). Of course, I thought the same of Republicans until a few weeks ago. It is one thing to ask for more proof, it is another thing to vote against getting more proof because you went on TV and said you don't think it would change your mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yabby View Post
    I would like to think if Obama was asking another country to look up dirt so he could get re-elected (And wouldn't give aid until done so), that there would at least be a few democrats that would break the line (See how quickly they turned on Al Franken?). Of course, I thought the same of Republicans until a few weeks ago. It is one thing to ask for more proof, it is another thing to vote against getting more proof because you went on TV and said you don't think it would change your mind.
    I wasn't talking hypothetical. It happened. You do realize that right? They even went the route of "yes it was illegal, but he shouldn't be impeached for it." They had the proof and still said that.

    I have no doubts in my mind that, in your hypothetical situation, dems would do the exact same bullshit. I don't know why you think that these crooked little fucks would suddenly become morally obligated to do the right thing simply because of party affiliation. That's actually the driving force behind this kind of retardation.

    Again, it's not a left or right thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gadritan View Post
    I wasn't talking hypothetical. It happened. You do realize that right? They even went the route of "yes it was illegal, but he shouldn't be impeached for it." They had the proof and still said that.

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    Going to need some proof with that so i can see if you are comparing apples to apples. Unless you are talking about the blowjob, which isn't even close to this.

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    The lengths some people will go to scream BOTH SIDES when it's clear that only one side allows this kind of blatant corruption is astounding to me.

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    Is the president lying under oath not a big deal?

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    Oh right. He only had that one oopsy and we should assume he never lied about anything else.

    Definitely not a big deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrath View Post
    The lengths some people will go to scream BOTH SIDES when it's clear that only one side allows this kind of blatant corruption is astounding to me.
    Are.. .are you seriously suggesting that a politician can't be corrupt if they're a Democrat? Is this real life?

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    President lying under oath...

    President withholding aid so another country will investigate a political rival...

    Gadritan: SAME THING!!!

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    Guess a President can't lie under oath if the Republicans never let them get in front of congress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yabby View Post
    Going to need some proof with that so i can see if you are comparing apples to apples. Unless you are talking about the blowjob, which isn't even close to this.
    Oh for christ sakes. There's a plethora of material to draw from if you wanna take the time. It's old news like old old old and trying to put your head in the sand and say poidh is batshit retarded.

    You want to tell me that unless I link a fucking story it didn't happen? I'm guessing you were too young or not born at the time this all went down.

    It wasn't that he got a BJ. It was the fact he lied under oath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yabby View Post
    President lying under oath...

    President withholding aid so another country will investigate a political rival...

    Gadritan: SAME THING!!!
    Republicans defending a president despite proof he's guilty. Democrats defending a president despite proof he's guilty.

    Yabby: NOT THE SAME THING

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    And that was my point. And that's apples to apples. Not the act. The fact that parties will cast their morals aside and defend a guilty man simply because he's in the same party.

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    But go ahead and tell me I was saying that both acts were equally wrong. That's the best way to dodge the fucking point.

    Deflect fuckers. Deflect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gadritan View Post
    Are.. .are you seriously suggesting that a politician can't be corrupt if they're a Democrat? Is this real life?

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    this kind of blatant corruption
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    Not the same thing as simply being corrupt. I'm saying Republicans have gone above and beyond in their defense of this clearly corrupt president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gadritan View Post
    Oh for christ sakes. There's a plethora of material to draw from if you wanna take the time. It's old news like old old old and trying to put your head in the sand and say poidh is batshit retarded.

    You want to tell me that unless I link a fucking story it didn't happen? I'm guessing you were too young or not born at the time this all went down.

    It wasn't that he got a BJ. It was the fact he lied under oath.

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    Keep telling yourself that.

    The reason i asked for the story was that I was talking about if Obama did what Trump did, and you suggested it did. That is why i ask to make sure I wasn't missing something since you think you are able to spew random shit out and people take you at your word.

    So just so we are clear, you are comparing lying under oath and bribing another government to get involved with our elections, as the same thing?

    So is punching someone and blowing up a building.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gadritan View Post
    Oh for christ sakes. There's a plethora of material to draw from if you wanna take the time. It's old news like old old old and trying to put your head in the sand and say poidh is batshit retarded.

    You want to tell me that unless I link a fucking story it didn't happen? I'm guessing you were too young or not born at the time this all went down.

    It wasn't that he got a BJ. It was the fact he lied under oath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gadritan View Post
    Republicans defending a president despite proof he's guilty. Democrats defending a president despite proof he's guilty.

    Yabby: NOT THE SAME THING

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gadritan View Post
    And that was my point. And that's apples to apples. Not the act. The fact that parties will cast their morals aside and defend a guilty man simply because he's in the same party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gadritan View Post
    But go ahead and tell me I was saying that both acts were equally wrong. That's the best way to dodge the fucking point.

    Deflect fuckers. Deflect.

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    Holy shit dude, you made three more posts while i was typing mine. You need to collect your thoughts and respond in one, this isn't spam. It's almost like you are triggered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gadritan View Post
    Republicans defending a president despite proof he's guilty. Democrats defending a president despite proof he's guilty.

    Yabby: NOT THE SAME THING

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    You really do take things at face value, don't you?

    Lying about a blow job is just as impeachable as lying about breaking the law but you're a tool if you think the two are even remotely equal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yabby View Post
    Keep telling yourself that.

    The reason i asked for the story was that I was talking about if Obama did what Trump did, and you suggested it did. That is why i ask to make sure I wasn't missing something since you think you are able to spew random shit out and people take you at your word.

    So just so we are clear, you are comparing lying under oath and bribing another government to get involved with our elections, as the same thing?

    So is punching someone and blowing up a building.
    Well, you did miss a lot. I was pointing out how Democrats went out of their way to defend Clinton lying under oath despite the inference that they're morally superior to Republicans and wouldn't actually do such a thing.

    I am not comparing the acts in question, I was comparing the reactions of the parties in both scenarios.

    And not triggered. Just too lazy to make one concise post tbh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gadritan View Post
    Well, you did miss a lot. I was pointing out how Democrats went out of their way to defend Clinton lying under oath despite the inference that they're morally superior to Republicans and wouldn't actually do such a thing.

    I am not comparing the acts in question, I was comparing the reactions of the parties in both scenarios.

    And not triggered. Just too lazy to make one concise post tbh.

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    You can't compare the reactions of both sides without comparing what they are reacting to. Or are you still missing something?

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