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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyche View Post
    Allowing unchecked presidential power and corruption would have been much much more expensive than an impeachment. This was far and away cheaper than letting Trump get away with whatever he wanted. To call it a waste of money is short sighted.
    I have a difficult time agreeing with this. The cost of losing is high. Ridiculously high. This could be the last push to get the fucker FOUR MORE YEARS.

    If this was closer to the beginning of his term, I'd agree 100%. But the timing, god damn the timing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melena View Post
    Wow, where did I say he shouldn't. Jesus christ, you're fucking dumb. Somehow we've gone from yeah, he needs to be impeached, but keep in mind that it's going to fail and embolden the right, so tread carefully = don't even bother trying. If you're going to throw toddler temper tantrums, make sure you fully comprehend what the fuck you're saying before you make yourself look even dumber than you were before, which going by your track record of looking like a 3 year old stamping his feet at walmart because mommy won't buy you any chickie nuggies, is pretty damn fucking impressive right now, especially since you just got a week time out for your last toddler temper tantrum.
    Do fucking tell then, what should they have done differently? Also did you read his post?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gadritan View Post
    So back to my statement about the gigantic waste of time and resources.
    Please inform me, the 3 year old toddler who can't comprehend stomping his feet, where that implies that "Well gosh, glad we did it but I think we didn't do it the right way".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gadritan View Post
    I have a difficult time agreeing with this. The cost of losing is high. Ridiculously high. This could be the last push to get the fucker FOUR MORE YEARS.

    If this was closer to the beginning of his term, I'd agree 100%. But the timing, god damn the timing.

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    It's not about just Trump. It's about future administrations and setting expectations for presidential behavior.

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    Well for starters, they should have let the subpoena stuff play out in court to get some witnesses into the house under oath as everyone with half a brain cell knew the republicans would never allow witnesses. That would have had the added effect of keeping obstruction of congress fresh in the voters minds once the debates hit. But in typical fashion, impatience won, democrats blew their load early, and we have what happened today. But it's good to see you're accepting for how you're behaving. If you decide to grow up and show you deserve a seat at the big boy table, maybe people would be willing to actually talk to you as an adult in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melena View Post
    Well for starters, they should have let the subpoena stuff play out in court to get some witnesses into the house under oath as everyone with half a brain cell knew the republicans would never allow witnesses. That would have had the added effect of keeping obstruction of congress fresh in the voters minds once the debates hit. But in typical fashion, impatience won, democrats blew their load early, and we have what happened today. But it's good to see you're accepting for how you're behaving. If you decide to grow up and show you deserve a seat at the big boy table, maybe people would be willing to actually talk to you as an adult in the future.
    So they should have let the entire process drag out past the election? That's a horrible idea. There's on the record now proof that the Senate doesn't even want to bother with ANY witnesses AND a Republican voting for impeachment. I'd say that's bigger wins than anything that could have been gotten by dragging it out for a year. Also any table you're at sounds like an absolute dream.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyche View Post
    It's not about just Trump. It's about future administrations and setting expectations for presidential behavior.
    Fair point. Might fuck us for 4 years, but we have all the decades afterwards.

    I'm just really nervous about the election now. I just told my wife she's gotta suck it up and actually vote this year. Literally her response was "it's only one vote. It doesn't matter."

    Anyone know a good attorney?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gadritan View Post
    Fair point. Might fuck us for 4 years, but we have all the decades afterwards.

    I'm just really nervous about the election now. I just told my wife she's gotta suck it up and actually vote this year. Literally her response was "it's only one vote. It doesn't matter."

    Anyone know a good attorney?

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    Depends on where you live. For example, I'm in Washington, and it doesn't matter at all how I vote because it's so blue here I can't see my balls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarage View Post
    Depends on where you live. For example, I'm in Washington, and it doesn't matter at all how I vote because it's so blue here I can't see my balls.
    But your morals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gadritan View Post
    But your morals.

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    I apply them in other ways, more useful ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarage View Post
    So they should have let the entire process drag out past the election? That's a horrible idea. There's on the record now proof that the Senate doesn't even want to bother with ANY witnesses AND a Republican voting for impeachment. I'd say that's bigger wins than anything that could have been gotten by dragging it out for a year. Also any table you're at sounds like an absolute dream.
    Confirmed you're an idiot. The odds of that taking 15 months were low as it would have been expected that Trumps legal team would have pushed for the appeal to go straight to the supreme court. But please, keep reading how you want to read and interpret things. This is why people laugh as you kick and stomp your feet at the little kids table while others actually try to have some normal semblance of debate and discourse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarage View Post
    I apply them in other ways, more useful ways.
    Like telling someone their life is worthless. Got it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gadritan View Post
    Like telling someone their life is worthless. Got it.

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    He's not even worth it at this point. Let him keep stomping his feet, he'll get himself timed back out in no time on his own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melena View Post
    Confirmed you're an idiot. The odds of that taking 15 months were low as it would have been expected that Trumps legal team would have pushed for the appeal to go straight to the supreme court. But please, keep reading how you want to read and interpret things. This is why people laugh as you kick and stomp your feet at the little kids table while others actually try to have some normal semblance of debate and discourse.
    You're oblivious. It's pretty hilarious how oblivious actually. But sure, keep stomping your feet about the opposite. Your kids table analogy hasn't gotten stale at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melena View Post
    He's not even worth it at this point. Let him keep stomping his feet, he'll get himself timed back out in no time on his own.
    Lol that all you got at the end of all your posts lame quips and threats of bans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by milez View Post
    Lol that all you got at the end of all your posts lame quips and threats of bans?

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    Well he has been timed out twice for saying he wanted people on here to actually die. I mean, the reputation of a whiny tantrum throwing crybaby is already there for him. If he would actually act like a well adjusted adult, he probably wouldn't have gotten himself in the mods cross hairs twice in the last month or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melena View Post
    Well he has been timed out twice for saying he wanted people on here to actually die. I mean, the reputation of a whiny tantrum throwing crybaby is already there for him. If he would actually act like a well adjusted adult, he probably wouldn't have gotten himself in the mods cross hairs twice in the last month or so.
    Oh no, what ever will I do, I'm in bad sorts with hypocritical mods. For someone who claims to be as smart as you, you sure do fail to see that I obviously don't give a shit about what they think.

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    I'd like to believe there's some weight in the 70%+ of Americans that wanted witness/probably believed he was guilty actually turning out to vote against him. At the same time, it hopefully takes out every replublican in house/senate elections that played along with the farce. Either way, the ad cycle come November is going to be fucking miserable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarage View Post
    Oh no, what ever will I do, I'm in bad sorts with hypocritical mods. For someone who claims to be as smart as you, you sure do fail to see that I obviously don't give a shit about what they think.
    Yet all you do is cry, whine, and wish death upon people. Seriously, go have a snickers or something. For someone who doesn't care, there sure is a whole lot of mad and tears coming from you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melena View Post
    Yet all you do is cry, whine, and wish death upon people. Seriously, go have a snickers or something. For someone who doesn't care, there sure is a whole lot of mad and tears coming from you.
    My favorite part in all of this is how much you care. This has upset you quite a bit hasn't it. I ain't even mad.

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    I'm not sure why anyone thinks this will embolden Trump or the GOP. He could shoot someone dead on 5th Ave and not lose a single vote.

    He has been at maximum emboldenedess for 3 years already.

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