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    As a Bengals fan, I do miss when Jay Gruden was our OC...

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    Eli Manning to hold a press conference on Friday reportedly to announce his retirement.


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    Sending that to literally everybody. Fucking ROFL.

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    Twitter is divided

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    Quote Originally Posted by archibaldcrane View Post
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    fuck off Twitter Eli is top 10 in every passing stat and has 2 Super Bowl MVPs in brilliant underdog runs he's a no brainer

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    He's the opposite of a victim of circumstance. His durability is probably his most impressive skill.

    I'd love him too if my team won SBs with him but only his longevity is really notable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andalusian girls View Post
    fuck off Twitter Eli is top 10 in every passing stat and has 2 Super Bowl MVPs in brilliant underdog runs he's a no brainer
    he'll also be the only modern era hof qb with a 0.500 record

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyis. View Post
    he'll also be the only modern era hof qb with a 0.500 record
    Joe Namath has a losing record.

    Eli will get in the HoF.

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    joe retired before we were born. dude has more picks than tds. that shit aint modern

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    Modern era. Super bowl era. Same difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moss View Post
    He's the opposite of a victim of circumstance. His durability is probably his most impressive skill.

    I'd love him too if my team won SBs with him but only his longevity is really notable.

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    idk how you deny him when his longevity gave him #7 all time numbers in all the counting stats and he led his team to two rings against the greatest dynasty / player / coach of all time

    also his mediocrity during the regular season was often because the Giants put dogshit around him (especially during the second half of his career). he got them wildcard rings they shouldn't have had a prayer at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andalusian girls View Post
    idk how you deny him when his longevity gave him #7 all time numbers in all the counting stats
    matt ryan is gonna be the #5 all time passing stat leader in 3 years and he aint going to the hall. a lot of those stats dont matter for shit anymore.

    at the pace frat staford is going he will retire as #1 in all passing stats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andalusian girls View Post
    idk how you deny him when his longevity gave him #7 all time numbers in all the counting stats and he led his team to two rings against the greatest dynasty / player / coach of all time

    also his mediocrity during the regular season was often because the Giants put dogshit around him (especially during the second half of it). he got them wildcard rings they shouldn't have had a prayer at.
    That's why I'm saying his durability was his most impressive skill. But that doesn't make a hall of famer to me. I don't think Frank Gore should be in the hall either even though he has great counting stats

    Consistent and long term mediocrity (granted sometimes better than average, but sometimes worse) should not be enough to make the Hall IMO

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    anyone that has never been a first or second team all pro in their entire career shouldn't be in the hall of fame. thats how i see it. it quite literally means you've never been top 3 in your position ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyis. View Post
    matt ryan is gonna be the #5 all time passing stat leader in 3 years and he aint going to the hall. a lot of those stats dont matter for shit anymore.

    at the pace frat staford is going he will retire as #1 in all passing stats.
    What's funny is he definitely should if Eli is getting in

    I'm biased obviously but he at least has an MVP and many seasons of being top 5 at his position

    If he had won that ring he'd prob be a lock

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    i don't disagree with either of you gentlemen in that counting stats are not enough by themselves, and passing stats are inflated in the modern era

    but Frank Gore Matt Ryan and Matthew Stafford don't have 2 Super Bowl MVPs against the greatest dynasty of all time capping off dual 4-0 postseasons between them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andalusian girls View Post
    i don't disagree with either of you gentlemen counting stats are not enough, and passing stats are inflated in the modern era

    but Frank Gore Matt Ryan and Matthew Stafford don't have 2 Super Bowl MVPs against the greatest dynasty of all time capping off dual 4-0 postseasons between them
    Fair. But Eli's playoff stats aren't appreciably better than the regular season and I think more credit is due the Giants defense in the 18-0 pats season. I don't remember too much from that other SB aside from Welker's drop

    Fwiw I don't think it's a disgrace to put him in the Hall or anything, just don't think he should be in personally

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    carson palmer would be a disgrace. eli is that borderline dude that 50% of people think he is and 50% dont.

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