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    Quote Originally Posted by shepardG View Post
    Yeah, that's my fear, but in the last year since i've been taking Test (not at steroid body builder levels, but as a prescribed medication) it has been a life changer. I mean... I was suicidial in 2016, I got sent to an 8 week rehabilitation clinic, I was on celexa, welbutrin, topamax, colonopins, and It was the last thing I experienced in my military career. The reality of what benefits medicinal levels of androgenic steroids can mean for honestly a large portion of the population is incredible. But doctors don't want to fuck with it, because ... reasons.

    Had I been prescribed TRT while I was in in 2015/16 I would still be in the military. In the last 10 months though, i've never taken over 120mg/week. Body builders are taking 500mg/week which blows my mind. I constant berate people on reddit in the r/testosterone sub-reddit, because you get kids 18,19,20 years old, and their like ... MY TEST LEVELS ARE 450,590, 498... BUT MY DICK DON'T WORK AND I'M TIRED ALL THE TIME, SHOULD I TAKE 250MG/WEEK ??? Like: Mother fucker, you want to do steroids, do fucking steroids... but fuck you for thinking your middle ground of test is low.

    anyway: Day, having lived 39 years of my life without taking any Steroids/PEDs, and then looking at my natural physiological levels, being prescribed Test, and seeing how much of a difference it made in my life, I absolutely do and will continue to recommend it. I'm not talking about Milkster/Panda levels of steroids, but medicinal levels. It's amazing.
    They've done research into using AAS and PEDs for mental health issues and there has been overwhelmingly positive results.

    Also 500mg a week a test is a beginner cycle. I cruise on 500 mg of test a week. During a full blast I'm like 2~3+ grams a week.

    When Dallas McCarver died his test was 30,000 ng/dl. The highest I've ever hit was 3465

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkster View Post
    They've done research into using AAS and PEDs for mental health issues and there has been overwhelmingly positive results.

    Also 500mg a week a test is a beginner cycle. I cruise on 500 mg of test a week. During a full blast I'm like 2~3+ grams a week.
    I don't feel like that's smart, but i'm not knocking it. I can't imagine taking that much, when I feel so fucking good on 100

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    Ugh, looking in the mirror today and realizing I've officially started knocking on the door of "letting myself go," when 8 weeks ago I was ramping up toward being in truly great shape. It's so hard to motivate myself to work out when I'm at home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andalusian girls View Post
    you know much more of it than i, just heard many a horror story of 40-ish year old roiders with blown out t production from overuse
    To truly destroy your endocrine system you'd have to put yourself in the hospital. You'll eventually return to homeostasis after you stop cycling. Im not saying it'll be within months but eventually. It's a rare thing to truly have endocrinologic disorders from cycling. Probably people that never got blood work and just ran their other organ systems into the ground and had no idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shepardG View Post
    I don't feel like that's smart, but i'm not knocking it. I can't imagine taking that much, when I feel so fucking good on 100
    Puberty 2.0. It's pretty amazing until you start pinning daily multiple times then the novelty wears off but 500 a week isn't that much. TRT is putting you inside the mid to upper levels of what's considered normal. You just feel what the average guy feels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zealot View Post
    Ugh, looking in the mirror today and realizing I've officially started knocking on the door of "letting myself go," when 8 weeks ago I was ramping up toward being in truly great shape. It's so hard to motivate myself to work out when I'm at home.
    You're only going to get older and have more responsibilities and less time to work on you and achieve your goals. You'll soon be well past the door of letting yourself go and will have refinanced your mortgage on the home of Dad bod and gut sticking out further than your dick and pecs.

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    Help me Milkster, how do I slim down and tone up when I have no weights, no gym. If I'm not surrounded by these visual cues to work out I just can't get myself to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkster View Post
    Puberty 2.0. It's pretty amazing until you start pinning daily multiple times then the novelty wears off but 500 a week isn't that much. TRT is putting you inside the mid to upper levels of what's considered normal. You just feel what the average guy feels.
    after years of below avg, i'm o.k. with this I've debated going "hard in the paint" for 3 months when i get back home and get settled. I definetly can't push the envelope while over here. i'm not paying 1200$ for blood work once a month. So In June I'm going to start HCG+test+cardarine, and I'll have Aromasin incase I need an AI. Anything more than that is to risky with the shitty diet out here, and the high altitude=hematocrit levels I'm prone to along with lack of fast blood test, and or doctor support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shepardG View Post
    after years of below avg, i'm o.k. with this I've debated going "hard in the paint" for 3 months when i get back home and get settled. I definetly can't push the envelope while over here. i'm not paying 1200$ for blood work once a month. So In June I'm going to start HCG+test+cardarine, and I'll have Aromasin incase I need an AI. Anything more than that is to risky with the shitty diet out here, and the high altitude=hematocrit levels I'm prone to along with lack of fast blood test, and or doctor support.
    $1200? Once a month? That's excessive.

    https://www.privatemdlabs.com/ every 2 or 3 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zealot View Post
    Help me Milkster, how do I slim down and tone up when I have no weights, no gym. If I'm not surrounded by these visual cues to work out I just can't get myself to do it.
    Invest in resistance bands. If you can't do that, poverty workouts. Find a playground near you. Load up a book bag, take a towel and full gallon jugs of water or bigger containers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shepardG View Post
    I don't feel like that's smart, but i'm not knocking it. I can't imagine taking that much, when I feel so fucking good on 100
    For the record I was able to get prescribed testosterone legally through an endocrinologist and I played around with the idea. The biggest reason I chose not to do it legally was because I ran a cycle of what would have been closer to a legal dose, i was doing 80x2 a week for 160/week and I felt absolutely and truly miserable in every way and I could not even begin to imagine the hassle it would be to convince a doctor that knew next to nothing that the amount he felt safe giving me would have essentially had me permanently locked in to low T. I felt so bad doing that amount that I flat out just stopped after a while because I couldn't even bother to get up for days at a time let alone inject reliably anymore, I cared so little at that point that I didn't even bother doing a PCT.

    500mg a week is not an obscene amount and is the gold standard for anyone starting. After my experiences I can't really see lower than 400/week being anything other than an unmitigated disaster. I will say that when I first tried test and was handling my estrogen correctly with an AI all of my anxiety/neurosis/depression went away and I felt the closest to content and happy I ever had in my life. Now I self medicate with welbutrin/coke/adderall and am only succeeding in feeling a comfortable blandness with intermittent extreme lows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkster View Post
    $1200? Once a month? That's excessive.

    https://www.privatemdlabs.com/ every 2 or 3 months.
    you know i'm in Afghanistan right? there are 2 for profit medical clinics and the us military hospital here on bagram. the hospital only takes military and government civillians. Contractors have to use the clinics, unless it's a life or death situation (heart attack, stroke, etc.) broken leg? head to the clinic and pay out the ass cause they only take certain insurances.

    So going to privatemedlabs.com doesn't work, because the us zipcode we have here is 09354 Which doesn't work in private med lab. Like... I don't go off base lol, nobody does unless its for a specific mission (and with this pandemic and the peace treaty, they don't even do that) it's a different world my dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shepardG View Post
    after years of below avg, i'm o.k. with this I've debated going "hard in the paint" for 3 months when i get back home and get settled. I definetly can't push the envelope while over here. i'm not paying 1200$ for blood work once a month. So In June I'm going to start HCG+test+cardarine, and I'll have Aromasin incase I need an AI. Anything more than that is to risky with the shitty diet out here, and the high altitude=hematocrit levels I'm prone to along with lack of fast blood test, and or doctor support.
    also jesus christ

    https://www.labsmd.com/

    i used the 70$ one every time i got my blood checked which was fairly often. No doctor needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shepardG View Post
    you know i'm in Afghanistan right? there are 2 for profit medical clinics and the us military hospital here on bagram. the hospital only takes military and government civillians. Contractors have to use the clinics, unless it's a life or death situation (heart attack, stroke, etc.) broken leg? head to the clinic and pay out the ass cause they only take certain insurances.

    So going to privatemedlabs.com doesn't work, because the us zipcode we have here is 09354 Which doesn't work in private med lab. Like... I don't go off base lol, nobody does unless its for a specific mission (and with this pandemic and the peace treaty, they don't even do that) it's a different world my dude.
    I didn't post that for while you're over there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thetruepandagod View Post
    For the record I was able to get prescribed testosterone legally through an endocrinologist and I played around with the idea. The biggest reason I chose not to do it legally was because I ran a cycle of what would have been closer to a legal dose, i was doing 80x2 a week for 160/week and I felt absolutely and truly miserable in every way and I could not even begin to imagine the hassle it would be to convince a doctor that knew next to nothing that the amount he felt safe giving me would have essentially had me permanently locked in to low T. I felt so bad doing that amount that I flat out just stopped after a while because I couldn't even bother to get up for days at a time let alone inject reliably anymore, I cared so little at that point that I didn't even bother doing a PCT.

    500mg a week is not an obscene amount and is the gold standard for anyone starting. After my experiences I can't really see anything lower than 400/week being anything other than an unmitigated disaster. I will say that when I first tried test and was handling my estrogen correctly with an AI all of my anxiety/neurosis/depression went away and I felt the closest to content and happy I ever had in my life. Now I self medicate with welbutrin/coke/adderall and am only succeeding in feeling a comfortable blandness with intermittent extreme lows.
    yeah humans are weird bro. I would need to take an AI if I was taking anything over 140mg I think. So with the addition of the HCG, i'm fairly certain it's gonna put my Test levels around 900-1k. but i feel like i aromatise fairly easily, although with taking a zma every night, i feel alot better. Maybe i'll go big some time next year after the 2nd child lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkster View Post
    I didn't post that for while you're over there.
    oh word. yeah I'll definetly use that site back home if I run anything more than TRT levels

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    Y'all never talk about any negative side effects

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    Quote Originally Posted by thetruepandagod View Post
    For the record I was able to get prescribed testosterone legally through an endocrinologist and I played around with the idea. The biggest reason I chose not to do it legally was because I ran a cycle of what would have been closer to a legal dose, i was doing 80x2 a week for 160/week and I felt absolutely and truly miserable in every way and I could not even begin to imagine the hassle it would be to convince a doctor that knew next to nothing that the amount he felt safe giving me would have essentially had me permanently locked in to low T. I felt so bad doing that amount that I flat out just stopped after a while because I couldn't even bother to get up for days at a time let alone inject reliably anymore, I cared so little at that point that I didn't even bother doing a PCT.

    500mg a week is not an obscene amount and is the gold standard for anyone starting. After my experiences I can't really see lower than 400/week being anything other than an unmitigated disaster. I will say that when I first tried test and was handling my estrogen correctly with an AI all of my anxiety/neurosis/depression went away and I felt the closest to content and happy I ever had in my life. Now I self medicate with welbutrin/coke/adderall and am only succeeding in feeling a comfortable blandness with intermittent extreme lows.
    I will ship you some left over 250 Test E vials. No Tren because dats mine and I enjoy the psychotic roller-coaster it sends me on.

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    The amount you guys talk about test being mood altering is concerning. My mental health is good, but the few times I have taken something mood altering it hasn't been good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkster View Post
    I will ship you some left over 250 Test E vials. No Tren because dats mine and I enjoy the psychotic roller-coaster it sends me on.
    TPG, I think you should share injection vials with the gay escort.

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