{COVID-19} Coronavirus Pandemic: Toilet Paper Rationing

[Guitarman]

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Good lord, people.

[Vil]

Chicago's got restaurants/bars at half capacity and 100 people max. Better than nothing, but barely.

[AoE]

Also gaming related; if anyone's REALLY bored, I started a new chara on the PSO Ephedera server. Anyone care to join me if you're bored? It's a good community but I wouldn't mind having a *flips the bird at coronovirus* group from here to level and do stuff!

When do you plan on playing?

[Byrthnoth]

Are restaurants even viable businesses under those conditions?

[Salodin]

The costs are still there, slowly spoiling away. So are the supply lines. Every single state is trying to juggle not permanently crippling businesses and supply lines with public health and when I see those measures, and then above read about over 300 dead in one day from the virus, I wonder if it's even worth it.

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[Cail]

368 more new deaths today in Italy. The total death number is close to 2,000 now and around 25,000 confirmed cases.

Worst day for italy so far, hope they can slow it down.

seems like every day this week has been "the worst day for italy" and then the next day happens and repeat

[Mertron]

seems like every day this week has been "the worst day for italy" and then the next day happens and repeat

[Vil]

Chicago's got restaurants/bars at half capacity and 100 people max. Better than nothing, but barely.

All will be closed to the public in Illinois from close of business tomorrow through the rest of the month. (Delivery/pick-up will still be allowed)

Ohio as well, starting tonight.

[Kalmado]

My buddy works for a factory/warehouse that does parts for one of the Big Three in auto. He said they haven't said a word about closing or employees going home yet.

[mallister]

I'm sure it'll be ok guys! Devin Nunes says now's the time to go out and have a meal with friends and support our local businesses!

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/m/9ea3...ime-to-go.html

[Sephiroth]

the world's numbers have flat lined in general. mathematically this isn't anywhere as dangerous as it was made out to be imo

all that initial 30-70% of the world population talk doesn't make sense when you consider that a 3% death rate of the world's population would equate to 225,000,000 dead people worldwide, but the current death toll of this virus is at about 6,000 (which means about 200,000 people worldwide have COVID-19 atm).

the way it's moving the growth rate of this thing isn't fast enough to even be considered a fraction of the swine flu

Seriously? All the data you need:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Cases aren't flatlining at all. There was a bit of a slow period between China getting things under control and the virus taking hold around the world but cases are now rocketing in almost every country. Numbers are growing exponentially outside of China. If we remove China's figures we have 86k cases around the world - 12k of which today and there's still a few hours left (that website runs on GMT).

Numbers double every 5 days, if you do the maths you reach the hundreds of millions of infected in about 2 months time. That's why a lot of scientists are saying they expect this to peak in 2-3 months time. We will see tens of millions dead before this event is over unless every country locks down until vaccines are ready to go. No way countries are going to lock down for the next year though without destroying their economies, but if they don't it will start spreading quickly again as soon as they lift the lockdowns. Shits going to get much worse before it gets better, this is only the beginning.

[Elizara]

When do you plan on playing?

I'm on right now, mostly stuffing my mag's face at the moment. Chara name's Elizara, a Force. On the first NA block.

If I"m not on XIV (I'm on Excal, as you can see from my profile), or playing a offline game, I've been playing that and getting my mag up.

Oh and I strongly assume that there's going to be a LOT of online game playing and game playing in general because of this, so not all bad, but watch out for a-holes.

[Edit] I'll see if I can add a link to Steam so you can see when I get on; I think that's the easiest way.

[Rhyis.]

Seriously? All the data you need:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Cases aren't flatlining at all. There was a bit of a slow period between China getting things under control and the virus taking hold around the world but cases are now rocketing in almost every country. Numbers are growing exponentially outside of China. If we remove China's figures we have 86k cases around the world - 12k of which today and there's still a few hours left (that website runs on GMT).

Numbers double every 5 days, if you do the maths you reach the hundreds of millions of infected in about 2 months time. That's why a lot of scientists are saying they expect this to peak in 2-3 months time. We will see tens of millions dead before this event is over unless every country locks down until vaccines are ready to go. No way countries are going to lock down for the next year though without destroying their economies, but if they don't it will start spreading quickly again as soon as they lift the lockdowns. Shits going to get much worse before it gets better, this is only the beginning.

i mean, the website you just linked shows the viruses growth rate is exactly how i described it, just read your own link lol. the cases have been hovering both above and below the exponential growth line since march. your own link literally show those numbers lol

nobody is saying to not take this seriously, just that the world coming back to normal may actually be plausible by like late april/early may

[Sephiroth]

i mean, the website you just linked shows the viruses growth rate is exactly how i described it, just read your own link lol. the cases have been hovering both above and below the exponential growth line since march. your own link literally show those numbers lol

I did mention that. March is about when the virus started taking hold outside of China. If you look at the charts you can clearly see an acceleration beginning about a week ago. I honestly hope I'm wrong and this shit does start flatlining as less death is better etc. but the stats seem to suggest it's accelerating again. The lockdowns will begin to slow it again in a couple of weeks but what then? How long can the world stay in lockdown?

[Mertron]

boom roasted

[Heavencloud]

[Aerin]

Seriously, the only reason Trump shows up to these is to pat himself on the back.

[BerenTebogo]

And to pump his stonks

[Cantih]

Ok, fun times, anyone familiar with California/Los Angeles labor rights/law is especially asked to chime in.

Spoilering this because of a degree of personal info I would rather not have a web spider bot scraping.

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My mother is a senior (72), works as a hairdresser for a franchise chain. We live in Los Angeles.
We live paycheck to paycheck, her tips pay for our groceries, our rent is $1,700 a month presently. She took social security as soon as she could, because it was necessary at the time to make ends meet.
Situation isn't rosy, her days have been reduced, from five to four in 2018, and from four to three at the start of 2020. I've had a part time job as a school crossing guard, so picked up some slack. We make ends meet, but we have little to no savings which I've had to fight to build up.

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The store manager called today saying the franchise owner is:
1) Cutting hours for everyone (likely because customers are starting to cancel appointments).
2) Because my mother is a senior, told her specifically to not come in for 2 weeks.

When she brought up our financial situation, and inquired about income issues/rent/making ends meet, she was then told to be on leave until further notice/indefinitely.

As far as I know, CA hasn't issued any guidelines on working seniors and COVID, and this looks skeezy (in addition to just generally being difficult due to the situation).

Does this look to be a valid issue for a lawyer? Does it even matter since we can't really afford one?
I'm asking here because she doesn't want me to go full blown to r/legaladvice just yet.

EDIT EDIT EDIT
Update. So, this morning, it was the assistant manager that called on behalf of the owner.
Just now, the full manager called and spoke with my mother. She was laid off indefinitely, my mother asked would she have her job back after this is over, was told no. So said "So I've been terminated?" .. "Yes"
Now, the full manager was stepping down from the position at the end of the month anyway, they are seeing what they can do to place my mother at another salon, in a private capacity.
EDIT EDIT EDIT

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And to head off the usual responses whenever I bring up rent/employment here:
No, we can't move out of L.A.
Her customer base (which she inherited from my grandmother) is tied to our location.
Her social security payment is too low to cover the cost of living anywhere else in the US.
And we don't have enough savings to manage a move anyway (first/last/deposit/etc. moving trucks & stuff leaving LA is a several thousand dollar cost on its own.)
Yes, I've tried getting a job to help income. I was unemployed from 2009 to 2017, and the crossing guard gig was the best I could get, as little as it pays.
I just don't get called in for interviews. I have had no reason to think this fact would change if I were to move elsewhere. And again, no real safty net to attempt it.

[Tyche]

Ok, fun times, anyone familiar with California/Los Angeles labor rights/law is especially asked to chime in.

Spoilering this because of a degree of personal info I would rather not have a web spider bot scraping.

Spoiler: show

My mother is a senior (72), works as a hairdresser for a franchise chain. We live in Los Angeles.
We live paycheck to paycheck, her tips pay for our groceries, our rent is $1,700 a month presently. She took social security as soon as she could, because it was necessary at the time to make ends meet.
Situation isn't rosy, her days have been reduced, from five to four in 2018, and from four to three at the start of 2020. I've had a part time job as a school crossing guard, so picked up some slack. We make ends meet, but we have little to no savings which I've had to fight to build up.

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The store manager called today saying the franchise owner is:
1) Cutting hours for everyone (likely because customers are starting to cancel appointments).
2) Because my mother is a senior, told her specifically to not come in for 2 weeks.

When she brought up our financial situation, and inquired about income issues/rent/making ends meet, she was then told to be on leave until further notice/indefinitely.

As far as I know, CA hasn't issued any guidelines on working seniors and COVID, and this looks skeezy (in addition to just generally being difficult due to the situation).

Does this look to be a valid issue for a lawyer? Does it even matter since we can't really afford one?
I'm asking here because she doesn't want me to go full blown to r/legaladvice just yet.

--
And to head off the usual responses whenever I bring up rent/employment here:
No, we can't move out of L.A.
Her customer base (which she inherited from my grandmother) is tied to our location.
Her social security payment is too low to cover the cost of living anywhere else in the US.
And we don't have enough savings to manage a move anyway (first/last/deposit/etc. moving trucks & stuff leaving LA is a several thousand dollar cost on its own.)
Yes, I've tried getting a job to help income. I was unemployed from 2009 to 2017, and the crossing guard gig was the best I could get, as little as it pays.
I just don't get called in for interviews. I have had no reason to think this fact would change if I were to move elsewhere. And again, no real safty net to attempt it.

Maybe he told her that because it would help her get unemployment benefits. If he kept her on at severely reduced hours, it would do more harm to her financially than laying her off and letting her collect unemployment.