{COVID-19} Coronavirus Pandemic: Toilet Paper Rationing

[Aerin]

Did this guy really just say that they learned from the WHO going to China that putting people with the same illness in the same area prevents them from spreading it to others? Did I hear that right? They didn’t already know that??

[Cantih]

Maybe he told her that because it would help her get unemployment benefits. If he kept her on at severely reduced hours, it would do more harm to her financially than laying her off and letting her collect unemployment.

I looked into UI since I'm off for 2 weeks as well, with the LAUSD closure, and my supervisor suggested it to me.
And, no, it does not pay much/enough. It's nearly always more money to be working

[Gadritan]

i mean, the website you just linked shows the viruses growth rate is exactly how i described it, just read your own link lol. the cases have been hovering both above and below the exponential growth line since march. your own link literally show those numbers lol

nobody is saying to not take this seriously, just that the world coming back to normal may actually be plausible by like late april/early may

I think we all need to pump the breaks until we have enough solid data. There's so many factors skewing what data we have that it's all guess work atm. Educated guesses, but guesses nonetheless.

You can find experts with opposing opinions on the current and future state of the pandemic for this very reason.

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[Cail]

CT closing all schools effective after Monday (most already have anyway)

[archibaldcrane]

Ok, fun times, anyone familiar with California/Los Angeles labor rights/law is especially asked to chime in.

Spoilering this because of a degree of personal info I would rather not have a web spider bot scraping.

Spoiler: show

My mother is a senior (72), works as a hairdresser for a franchise chain. We live in Los Angeles.
We live paycheck to paycheck, her tips pay for our groceries, our rent is $1,700 a month presently. She took social security as soon as she could, because it was necessary at the time to make ends meet.
Situation isn't rosy, her days have been reduced, from five to four in 2018, and from four to three at the start of 2020. I've had a part time job as a school crossing guard, so picked up some slack. We make ends meet, but we have little to no savings which I've had to fight to build up.

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The store manager called today saying the franchise owner is:
1) Cutting hours for everyone (likely because customers are starting to cancel appointments).
2) Because my mother is a senior, told her specifically to not come in for 2 weeks.

When she brought up our financial situation, and inquired about income issues/rent/making ends meet, she was then told to be on leave until further notice/indefinitely.

As far as I know, CA hasn't issued any guidelines on working seniors and COVID, and this looks skeezy (in addition to just generally being difficult due to the situation).

Does this look to be a valid issue for a lawyer? Does it even matter since we can't really afford one?
I'm asking here because she doesn't want me to go full blown to r/legaladvice just yet.

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And to head off the usual responses whenever I bring up rent/employment here:
No, we can't move out of L.A.
Her customer base (which she inherited from my grandmother) is tied to our location.
Her social security payment is too low to cover the cost of living anywhere else in the US.
And we don't have enough savings to manage a move anyway (first/last/deposit/etc. moving trucks & stuff leaving LA is a several thousand dollar cost on its own.)
Yes, I've tried getting a job to help income. I was unemployed from 2009 to 2017, and the crossing guard gig was the best I could get, as little as it pays.
I just don't get called in for interviews. I have had no reason to think this fact would change if I were to move elsewhere. And again, no real safty net to attempt it.

Really don't know if it's legal to tell her not to come into work because she's old. It's a real question. Is she an employee or a contractor?

[Cail]

Expect CT to close bars/restaurants or at least shorten hours. Governor expected to talk to Cuomo and do something jointly

[Cail]

Curfew in France starting at 6p

[mallister]

I'm sure it'll be ok guys! Devin Nunes says now's the time to go out and have a meal with friends and support our local businesses!

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/m/9ea3...ime-to-go.html

Annnnnd maybe no:

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...213212712.html

[mallister]

NYC closing schools, with possibility for it being the rest of the school year:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/york-city...211624372.html

[Cantih]

Really don't know if it's legal to tell her not to come into work because she's old. It's a real question. Is she an employee or a contractor?

Employee.


Also, update to the situation

Update. So, this morning, it was the assistant manager that called on behalf of the owner.

Just now, the full manager called and spoke with my mother.
She was laid off indefinitely, my mother asked would she have her job back after this is over, was told no. So said "So I've been terminated?" .. "Yes"

Now, the full manager was stepping down from the position at the end of the month anyway, they are seeing what they can do to place my mother at another salon, in a private capacity.

[Tyche]

Employee.


Also, update to the situation

Update. So, this morning, it was the assistant manager that called on behalf of the owner.

Just now, the full manager called and spoke with my mother.
She was laid off indefinitely, my mother asked would she have her job back after this is over, was told no. So said "So I've been terminated?" .. "Yes"

Now, the full manager was stepping down from the position at the end of the month anyway, they are seeing what they can do to place my mother at another salon, in a private capacity.

I understand that it's almost always better to be working than collect unemployment, but if your hours and tips are going to be significantly cut, then you may come out on top by applying for unemployment, as the rate of pay of the unemployment insurance will be based on her previous income when she was working more hours and collecting more tips.

[archibaldcrane]

Dude, you really need to get some full time work. I know that right now is the absolute worst time for that advice but

Cmon

[archibaldcrane]

I understand that it's almost always better to be working than collect unemployment, but if your hours and tips are going to be significantly cut, then you may come out on top by applying for unemployment, as the rate of pay of the unemployment insurance will be based on her previous income when she was working more hours and collecting more tips.

Yes she should absolutely file for unemployment immediately. Also she should call up all her regular clients and see if they want to take home appointments or at your apartment or something until she gets a new placement, and if she can work at home or mobile, do that shit all cash and keep collecting unemployment.

[Silenka]

The places that might be hiring the most right now are work from home gigs.

Even if they suck, it would be a job.

I know for a fact that Support.com will hire anyone with a decent PC and a microphone and they're always hiring.

[Cantih]

I doubt doing anything at our apartment is workable, ESPECIALLY right now.
And housecall is a no-go. Our car quit at the start of 2018, the cost to fix it (steering column issue) was more than we had (or even the value of the car) so we haven't had one since.
She uses the senior dial-a-ride or the bus to get to work, do groceries (we tried delivery, kept fucking up our orders), and handle other stuff.

[archibaldcrane]

I doubt doing anything at our apartment is workable, ESPECIALLY right now.
And housecall is a no-go. Our car quit at the start of 2018, the cost to fix it (steering column issue) was more than we had (or even the value of the car) so we haven't had one since.
She uses the senior dial-a-ride or the bus to get to work, do groceries (we tried delivery, kept fucking up our orders), and handle other stuff.

She has to keep her client list active, there's no way she can start over. And you need to earn more money. You're going to get evicted otherwise, step up for your mom.

[Cail]

CDC just announced that it is recommending NO gatherings of 50+ people in the United States for the next 8 weeks

RIP sports

[Gadritan]

She has to keep her client list active, there's no way she can start over. And you need to earn more money. You're going to get evicted otherwise, step up for your mom.

Not trying to pile on, but you need to hear it. Unless you have a medical condition preventing you from working, which you obviously don't, get a full time job. I have more respect for someone who will bag groceries or clean toilets to keep a job than someone that would turn their nose up at it.

Also, you can get a running beater of a car for $500. Hell, go to a car auction and you could get an ok one for that. And you can't tell me there's literally no jobs or you just never get called for interviews. Those are excuses. They haven't called you? CALL THEM. I used to intentionally not call candidates to see who would follow up so I know who really wants a job.

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[Guyverarmor]

It finally fucking happened. Someone in my building...same floor as me is presumptive positive for COVID-19. Just got a work email from our EVP stating all employees who worked on the 2nd and 3rd floor to work remote till Wednesday when confirmation of his testing comes back.

[Astylla]

Not trying to pile on, but you need to hear it. Unless you have a medical condition preventing you from working, which you obviously don't, get a full time job. I have more respect for someone who will bag groceries or clean toilets to keep a job than someone that would turn their nose up at it.

Also, you can get a running beater of a car for $500. Hell, go to a car auction and you could get an ok one for that. And you can't tell me there's literally no jobs or you just never get called for interviews. Those are excuses. They haven't called you? CALL THEM. I used to intentionally not call candidates to see who would follow up so I know who really wants a job.

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I just have to echo this.
As someone who has been homeless before for a short time and still found a way to make things work , it's a matter of swallowing pride and literally applying to every job even if you have to take initiative.

My friends in Michigan used to always say they never worried about me finding work because they know I refused to give up. Even when I was literally left with nothing , I walked six miles one day to apply to every gas station and retail store and found work in two days. Stop blaming everyone else and situations before you exhaust EVERY option.

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