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    Quote Originally Posted by shepardG View Post
    This is the crazy thing... you could cut the DOD's budget by hundreds of billions, and STILL GIVE THE TROOPS PAY RAISES. I'd honestly just love to see a rule that says the DOD can not create any new contracts or renew any expiring ones for 5 years.
    It's easier to justify the exorbitant amount of spending because people have such a hero worship affinity when it comes to the military and also a weird obsession with violence and death and those in charge know it. If only people knew how boring the daily life of the average enlisted and officer military personnel was.

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    I imagine this is either a) dead in the water b) so full of bullshit compromises that I'd rather just not have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shepardG View Post
    I imagine this is either a) dead in the water b) so full of bullshit compromises that I'd rather just not have it.
    That's tea.

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    Context: they're planning a "viehicle" protest in Lansing because of the governor's extension on the stay at home order as well as reducing the things big box stores can sell in person.

    I have never seen so many people into gardening when they were told they can peruse the gardening section at home depot and Lowes

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    perhaps it is religion that is the new politics you nerds

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    Quote Originally Posted by Day View Post
    why. the. fuck. are. we. still. there. btw
    winning the war on terror obv

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    i woke up this morning and i was stimulated

    also my refund check came through

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    gonna take this money down to AC and start gamb...oh

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    but no the fear is a unilateral withdrawal from the region will engender the kind of instability we saw subsequent to our withdrawal from Iraq and create another vacuum in which Jihadist groups (once more) gestate. defense theorists refers to it as mowing the grass, there is no ability to destroy these terrorist groups in toto with such a limited presence but so long as we remain in country enough pressure can be exerted to prevent them from coordinating international shenanigans. there were once plans of annihilating the Taliban and rebuilding the country in a Western democratic vein but those dreams are long dead. now we are gunning for a peace deal (which appears to be close) that will incorporate the Taliban into the political structure, creating a unified Afghani governing bloc that will be able to administrate their own territory and wrangle those naughty Pashtun lads in the transnational terror jamboree that bleeds into Pakistan. it is difficult to state whether it is more ironic, tragic, or comedic that our long-term plans envision using the Taliban as a shield against more extremist Jihadist groups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andalusian girls View Post
    but no the fear is a unilateral withdrawal from the region will engender the kind of instability we saw subsequent to our withdrawal from Iraq and create another vacuum in which Jihadist groups (once more) gestate. defense theorists refers to it as mowing the grass, there is no ability to destroy these terrorist groups in toto with such a limited presence but so long as we remain in country enough pressure can be exerted to prevent them from coordinating international shenanigans. there were once plans of annihilating the Taliban and rebuilding the country in a Western democratic vein but those dreams are long dead. now we are gunning for a peace deal that will incorporate the Taliban into the political structure, creating a unified Afghani governing bloc that will be able to administrate their own territory and wrangle those naughty Pashtun lads in the transnational terror jamboree that bleeds into Pakistan. it is difficult to state whether it is more ironic, tragic, or comedic that our long-term plans envision using the Taliban as a shield against more extremist Jihadist groups.
    doesnt seem worth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andalusian girls View Post
    perhaps it is religion that is the new politics you nerds
    wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Day View Post
    doesnt seem worth
    is 19 years too long a time to convince the Taliban to (checks notes) say they'll stop hanging out with Al-Qaeda

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andalusian girls View Post
    but no the fear is a unilateral withdrawal from the region will engender the kind of instability we saw subsequent to our withdrawal from Iraq and create another vacuum in which Jihadist groups (once more) gestate. defense theorists refers to it as mowing the grass, there is no ability to destroy these terrorist groups in toto with such a limited presence but so long as we remain in country enough pressure can be exerted to prevent them from coordinating international shenanigans. there were once plans of annihilating the Taliban and rebuilding the country in a Western democratic vein but those dreams are long dead. now we are gunning for a peace deal (which appears to be close) that will incorporate the Taliban into the political structure, creating a unified Afghani governing bloc that will be able to administrate their own territory and wrangle those naughty Pashtun lads in the transnational terror jamboree that bleeds into Pakistan. it is difficult to state whether it is more ironic, tragic, or comedic that our long-term plans envision using the Taliban as a shield against more extremist Jihadist groups.
    It is a monster that western imperialism has created starting back in the 60s. Guess you can only kill a people while occupying their homelands for so long before they hate you. Not to mention the numerous rogue military personnel that walks into random villages and slaughters without discrimination and has their crimes buried in some hole.

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    no students have logged in to zoom today, ive been dropping to the ground and alternating push-ups and crunches/leg raises to pass the time

    im telling myself im being paid to do this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkster View Post
    It is a monster that western imperialism has created starting back in the 60s. Guess you can only kill a people while occupying their homelands for so long before they hate you. Not to mention the numerous rogue military personnel that walks into random villages and slaughters without discrimination and has their crimes buried in some hole.
    Western imperialism has done the regions few favors but Wahhabist and Salafist ideologies long predate the 1960s and in Afghanistan's case it was Soviet, not Western, imperialism that deeply radicalized the nation.

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    the good old days when commies and Jihadis were fighting one another, the 80s were a magical time

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    panic level back to 0 cause BAT BUX GET

    this will buy many tortillas

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    Yeah I'm torn, there is only one way to fix that place, and I'm all about it, but it involves the murder of 100 million people. Anything less does.not.work. I'm fine if society doesn't want to commit genocide, I get it. THATS ALOT OF DAMAGE! But don't string the military, the American people, and the Afghanistan people along in some bullshit farce, that anyone who's seen first hand will tell you is really only about making rich bitches richer.

    They know we'll recognize what their doing, but they also know they dish out enough cash, nobody will really give a shit that its being done.
    America is a lazy apathetic nation. Full stop. When nearly half the amount of eligible voters don't vote (that's a guess, 120 mil voted in 2016, 330mil in the country, 40ish million less than 18) something is facing wrong. I mean...a racist, animal abusing, gun toting, possible murderer has been the most entertaining thing for most of America. Millions of people watched cardi-b throw a hissy fit cause she had to eat cereal at home..
    I mean... how do you fix this? How do you teach a 50 year old to learn, when he dropped out of high school? How do you express high functioning analytical capabilities to prevent him from being subverted by individuals whos best interests are in keeping him dumb and un-educated.
    How do you get people to stop giving people like Kim Kardashian, pewdiepie, etc. So much fucking attention ???
    Shit, how do you convince people with a deep understanding of the learning process, who have dedicated themselves to expanding humanities knowledge bubble just a lliiitttle bit more, to stop that and run for a political office that is a largely unfufilling position?

    The whole thing, I think, is sick.
    And ain't no vaccine coming down the pipe like with covid-19.

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