{COVID-19} Coronavirus Pandemic II: Easter is Being Rescheduled to July 15th

[Cail]

A Chinese county that is home to 600,000 people went into lockdown this week, amid fears of a second wave of coronavirus infections, even as other parts of the country try to open up.

Residents in Jia county in Henan province, which borders the epicenter of Hubei province to the north, have been told they must stay in their apartments unless they have a note from their employer certifying that they need to go to work. Civil servants are banned from leaving the county unless necessary.

All businesses other than those deemed essential such as supermarkets, hospitals, pharmacies and gas stations have been ordered to close, according to a notice issued by Jia county’s epidemic control headquarters.

Households will be allowed to send one person out every two days to buy supplies, according to the South China Morning Post, which first reported the news of the lockdown.

These measures echo restrictions put in place in Wuhan, the capital of Hubei, when it first went into lockdown. But they buck the trend around the rest of the country, where even Wuhan is beginning to resume normal life after more than two months under strict lockdown.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...s-latest-news/

[Cail]

Russia cases increased 771. Over 3k for the country

[Byrthnoth]

corona-chan really is showing just how bad like... all of our world leaders are. do we have ANY decent rulers out there? maybe south korea and perhaps maybe japan and that's it?

Naw, Japan is on record saying that just because they have testing capabilities, doesn't mean they have to use them. I think they opened the floodgates on testing last week after abandoning Olympics hope, but it would be a massive stretch to call their management of this "good." I would nominated Singapore, I guess.

Also, we are kind of unlikely to get honest "coronavirus nbd" reports in the US because we are only testing people that are pretty sick.

[fussel]

Hi. It's been a while since I logged into bg forums last, but I lurked a little during the last days to get a view outside from German MSM and reddit on this topic.

Story time. On Friday the 13th (hah), I had an appointment at the dentist. In the following week, I had a bad case of diarrhea for a couple of days. That went away, but I was still feeling dizzy and had a sore throat on the following weekend. I also got an e-mail on Friday the 16th, that my dentist got a positive covid test, apparently he was on vacation in Austria before I had my appointment.

Since I didn't feel well overall, I called my physician on the 24th to get written off sick. Got a sick note until 3rd of April. Ya know, socialist Germany has paid sick time by law, the first six weeks are paid for by your employer, and if it takes longer, the mandatory insurance takes over.

My doctor said, that while diarrhea is not a symptom of covid, the sore throat is, plus I had contact to someone tested positive. I was told that I'd get tested and would get another call from a local testing center on the same day. This happened, and I had to drive to a parking lot of a former vet where a guy in full protective clothing took a swab from my throat and nose through the car window. I was asked to stay home. This Monday, my test came back negative. Yay, apparently, it was a different bug.

Earlier in this thread, somebody claimed that we won't get a true estimate of infections until at least 80-90% of tests come back negative. Here's an interesting letter to a popular German blog on that: https://blog.fefe.de/?ts=a07b61b7

Rough translation:

The writer works in a corona test lab. Since three weeks, they exclusively test corona. They ramped up the test capacity to 1200 tests/day, about 20% of them are positive. Most of the tests come from retirement homes.

Big issues:

1) The test devices need maintenance. But techs may not enter the building to avoid contaminations.

2) Chemical consumables for the test are provided from the USA, they soon might stop delivery to use them themselves. Current stock may last until Easter. A different supplier is in northern Italy.

3) They're out of protective gear, don't even have time to properly sterilize lab coats.

If someone speaks about a declining number of new infections, this might be a result of less testing.

They also try to develop a test that's independent of US suppliers.

End rough translation.

[Byrthnoth]

My doctor said, that while diarrhea is not a symptom of covid, the sore throat is, plus I had contact to someone tested positive.

I'm sure you've read this by now, but diarrhea seems to be the first (and sometimes only) manifestation of covid in a lot of patients.
https://www.foxnews.com/health/diarr...patients-study

People also keep shedding SARS-COV-2 in their shit for something like 14 days after their last respiratory symptoms.

[fussel]

I'm sure you've read this by now, but diarrhea seems to be the first (and sometimes only) manifestation of covid in a lot of patients.

Yeah, I know. Robert Koch Institute also lists it as a rare possible symptom. Knowing that didn't make me sleep that well in the last couple of weeks. Didn't want to argue with the doc on the phone, though, since I was sent for a test anyways.

Wild speculation: There's still the possibility that it was indeed covid, but it didn't get into the respiratory system, only the gut. Only an antibody test would show.

[6souls]

Fuck...where is that from?

NYC

[Jefe]

[kuronosan]

Outside of RTPCR the testing carries quite an unusual number of false negatives.

[Salodin]

Outside of RTPCR the testing carries quite an unusual number of false negatives.

Are all the covid tests done using pcr?

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[Byrthnoth]

The original ones in the US were PCR only, which is why they were fucking slow and expensive.

For background, PCR gives exponential amplification of signal. As we all recently learned, any level + exponential amplification = signal. If they are now using other methods that either aren't pcr-based or just use fewer cycles, they are going to have a higher false negative rate.

Also, RNA is notoriously unstable. The processing of samples is critical and probably goes something like:
* Inactivate RNAses
* Digest capsule around viral RNA
* Purify RNA
* Do PCR

[Salodin]

I wonder when antibody tests will be available instead =( would be easier to monitor the public with that versus using pcr to look for RNA

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[kuronosan]

I wonder when antibody tests will be available instead =( would be easier to monitor the public with that versus using pcr to look for RNA

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They can be easily developed from serum, but are mostly only useful for screening tests (which is what we really need because most diagnoses have been presumptive waiting on confirmation, the test itself doesn't change treatment it just confirms a case). Rapidly screening people with ELISA would be cheap and quick, but there isn't a high likelihood of that happening right at this time (that I have heard of).

Many places I have referred to do RTPCR, owing to the lower-than-normal sensitivity and specificity of testing and length of time to result. My knowledge of that is rather outdated, though.

[Roranora]

I wonder when antibody tests will be available instead =( would be easier to monitor the public with that versus using pcr to look for RNA

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maybe Monday thinks Mayo Clinic

[Kalmado]

Michigan cancels remainder of the school year. Oh boy.

[Zealot]

Hmm. A couple weeks ago I had digestive issues, dry cough, sore throat, had a slight fever for a day, and woke up every night unable to breathe. Recovered after about 5 or 6 days but still have a mild upset stomach that's persisted. I wonder. No one who was around me during that time has reported being sick since.

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[Boyiee]

Hmm. A couple weeks ago I had digestive issues, dry cough, sore throat, had a slight fever for a day, and woke up every night unable to breathe. Recovered after about 5 or 6 days but still have a mild upset stomach that's persisted. I wonder. No one who was around me during that time has reported being sick since.

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Rip

[Elizara]

Welp.

GA schools closed for the rest of the year; GA governor finally issues a stay in place order

Kemp should of done it earlier but no hope for it. Good thing I resolved to stay the [CENSORED] away from Atlanta. ^^

[Souj]

Woot woot my home town has the 3rd highest infection rate for the state of Illinois.

[Heavencloud]

Hmm. A couple weeks ago I had digestive issues, dry cough, sore throat, had a slight fever for a day, and woke up every night unable to breathe. Recovered after about 5 or 6 days but still have a mild upset stomach that's persisted. I wonder. No one who was around me during that time has reported being sick since.

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whats a "slight fever"?
and yea it's probably the 'rona