SPOILERS Final Fantasy 7 Remake SPOILER THREAD - CURIOSITY KILLED THE CAT

[milez]

Mage limit breaks could miss in ff14.....well they used to when I use to play

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[Tyrath]

I don't see why you would have the expectation of Limits always hitting when literally everything else in the game can miss based on positioning. Seems kind of a silly to me.

Missing/losing the bar because the boss did a cinematic power up is a whole different story though.

[Guitarman]

Could limits missing be a bug? As an example, cross slash will miss if I'm not next to the enemy, but Ascension i seem to be able to activate wherever and cloud teleports to the enemy.

Also as an aside i wish limits built quicker. I think i got LB a dozen times through my playthrough or less.

[Tyrath]

Yeah, how slow Limits are kind of made the Refocus materia useless to me. That thing should not be tied to Limit Breaks.

[Salodin]

Missing isn't a bug I think, but they have so many iframes and distance closing on them that it's hard to miss without some kinda bullshit happening. Ascension I never missed once on, Dolphin either. Catastrophe I only missed once cause of a transformation scene on a boss.

Limits do charge too slow. Refocus I think might speed it up cause when I wore that I did get limit faster, but that might just be in my head lol.

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[Shenrien]

I feel like if you are well versed with a fight or know when things are about to happen then you should know better than to just blow your limit break because you have it, save that shit for pressure or during a stagger to really chunk. If you're just popping it as soon as you get it and that happens to you then that's your fault. If its your first time experiencing a fight and it happens to you, then fair game but during my entire play through I couldn't have that ever line up, maybe it did for others but that's just my 2 cents.

[Guitarman]

It's near impossible to know how to time limits or big bursts on your first playthrough. Even on replay i know to expect form changes but its going to take a few run throughs for me to know a fight enough to time it properly. It would be most simply solved by letting the damage push through the next form. One example was whisper bahamut, i had him staggered, blew ascention, and after the damage from the first hit he form changed, and the rest of the hits went to nothing. Just shit luck on my end, nothing you can do about it, but it's still pretty frustrating.

[Elcura]

I don't see why you would have the expectation of Limits always hitting when literally everything else in the game can miss based on positioning. Seems kind of a silly to me.

Missing/losing the bar because the boss did a cinematic power up is a whole different story though.

Maybe if you're really pessimistic or on the other side of the planet sure, but when you enter a cutscene at point blank range and then the latter half does nothing then surely some expectations were destroyed.

I don't disagree you should adapt and move on, but acting like you shouldn't be bitter or disappointed about it is ridiculous.

[Takiwaki]

it really is the biggest flaw in the game, i wonder if messing with the auto camera adjust thing would help at all

There definitely a way in setting to change lock on targets to the dpad.

Edit wow Im late lol, thread is going fast. Love it

[BerenTebogo]

Did you know you can criticise a game for faults and still like the game? Shocking I know.



No shit it isn't Devil May Cry, that has an excellently designed combat system.

The pace of combat in FF7:R is dictated by your skill at the game and knowledge of the enemy, it's anywhere between turn based (aka idk what the hell is going on) to reactionary and fully active.

This is a decent attempt at something fresh but has a lot of stupid things that definitely need to be ironed out in the next game and the battle system isn't anywhere close to perfect but I hope they try to improve it instead of scrapping it for something new.

Don't you fucking come in here with your fucking sensible stances. You, I, and countless others hated this game because we were bad at it. There is no other explanation.

[BerenTebogo]

It's near impossible to know how to time limits or big bursts on your first playthrough. Even on replay i know to expect form changes but its going to take a few run throughs for me to know a fight enough to time it properly. It would be most simply solved by letting the damage push through the next form. One example was whisper bahamut, i had him staggered, blew ascention, and after the damage from the first hit he form changed, and the rest of the hits went to nothing. Just shit luck on my end, nothing you can do about it, but it's still pretty frustrating.

This.

I didn't look up any fights before hand on my first playthrough. Fucking everything was a surprise, as it should be.

[Shenrien]

K and it was for me as well, but it became pretty apparent HP gates were 70, 50, 30 and 10% for phases pretty quickly.

[Nitsuki]

How much do i need to fucking prepare for this Bahamut fight?!?!? Only character i have above 8K hp is Barret, and they’re all lvl 50. I can barely shave off 30% before he megaflares.

[BerenTebogo]

How much do i need to fucking prepare for this Bahamut fight?!?!? Only character i have above 8K hp is Barret, and they’re all lvl 50. I can barely shave off 30% before he megaflares.

Magnify manaward

[Mayareira]

Does magnify reduce the effectiveness of barrier and manaward?

[BerenTebogo]

Does magnify reduce the effectiveness of barrier and manaward?

Maybe? But it's better than like 60 mp and 3 ATB.

[Heavencloud]

How much do i need to fucking prepare for this Bahamut fight?!?!? Only character i have above 8K hp is Barret, and they’re all lvl 50. I can barely shave off 30% before he megaflares.

revival earrings

also Hell House on hard mode was disappointing. The couple cheap shots by tonberries are dumb but still won first try. Only took 20min

[BerenTebogo]

For bahamut on hard you shouldn't need revival or manaward unless you are going real slow. Let reprieve catch you and eat 1 MF then kill it.

For normal, idk revive earrings definitely work but I still prefer manaward. It's the 1 fight where there is even a point to using it.

[Heavencloud]

For bahamut on hard you shouldn't need revival or manaward unless you are going real slow. Let reprieve catch you and eat 1 MF then kill it.

For normal, idk revive earrings definitely work but I still prefer manaward. It's the 1 fight where there is even a point to using it.

fair enough, i didnt get bahamut on normal but skipped right to it when i started on hard mode so didn't have reprieve unlocked on everyone yet. it prob wasn't fastest kill, i ate 1 MF and revived then killed before 2nd one went off

[AoE]

Hard Hell House was beating my ass the other day because I can't raise on both chars and I keep getting taken out by the two robots in the last phase. Also is there a way to dodge Hellbound or is all I have is Manawall and pray?