SPOILERS Final Fantasy 7 Remake SPOILER THREAD - CURIOSITY KILLED THE CAT

[BerenTebogo]

Just replayed FFXII. Wild that the battle system from 11 years ago is way better than FF7R. Everything was there. You could customize as little or as much as you wanted. Have characters play like you wanted or go full atb style and mash their abilities a la FF7R.

Choices man. Give us choices. Don’t feed us shit and tell us it is the only thing on the menu so we better eat up.

[Mrbeansman]

I checked out after meeting Aerith and being told to pick flowers after reading this thread I'm glad I did.

[Andalusian girls]

too hard for you? get gud bro

i like Hamtaro Island 2 Hamham Heartbreak

[Xno Kappa]

i like Hamtaro Island 2 Hamham Heartbreak

https://youtu.be/GR3kGU0RoXE

[Kaslo]

I checked out after meeting Aerith and being told to pick flowers after reading this thread I'm glad I did.

Too many flowers 2/10

[Gredival]

So the whole "we are only doing Midgar so we can expand the game" would have been tight if they didn't go Peter Jackson's Hobbit trilogy level of inane stuff as part of the expansion.

The game goes through dips of tight on-pace storytelling that hits the beats of the original while adding some good development, then deserts of fluff.

- Chapter 1 and 2 are great.
- Chapter 3 and 8 (Tifa and Aeris sidequest chapters) were tolerable once but having to redo them twice (or more if you didn't plan things out) for all the dresses made them extremely grating.
- Chapter 4's side story with Jessie, Biggs, and Wedge was actually pretty okay and added a lot of development to those characters (who we immediately forget since we don't see them for the rest of the game nearly).
- Chapter 5 (train and tunnel) was fine but Chapter 6 (the sun lamp shit) was insufferable.
- I don't think they really should have changed anything about Chapter 7 (the second reactor).
- Chapter 9 went on waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too long, especially with the fact you have to do it at least twice to see all the content then the potential of having to redo again for the other dresses. It also deserves a "Fuck you" for the pull-up minigame.
- Chapter 10 sewers were fine.
- Chapter 11 wasn't bad in terms of writing but it was awkwardly placed in the timing and flow of the game since you're playing hide and seek with ghosts right before they drop a plate.
- Chapters 13/14 is all fluff that can be cut and the fact I don't have particularly bad memories of it is proof of how repetition is what made 3/8/9 so bad.
- Chapters 15 and 16 in the Shinra building were fine.
- Chapter 17 was an annoying addition of a maze dungeon out of nowhere.
- Chapter 18 was Nomura.

[Xno Kappa]

The train graveyard was honestly one of my favorite parts. Felt like the game starting with the sewer really started to hit its stride with actual meaningful content. The Ghoul boss is easily one of the more fun fights of the game.

[Andalusian girls]

will say amidst all my bitching the combat system was p entertaining and really shined in the better boss fights. clean up some of the minor annoyances such as stagger bar resets + artificial invincibility periods + unnecessary cutscenes during transformations and you got yourself a fine system.

[Shenrien]

Just replayed FFXII. Wild that the battle system from 11 years ago is way better than FF7R. Everything was there. You could customize as little or as much as you wanted. Have characters play like you wanted or go full atb style and mash their abilities a la FF7R.

Choices man. Give us choices. Don’t feed us shit and tell us it is the only thing on the menu so we better eat up.

You have choices, play classic or play the game and have fun. It's alright that you hate it because you're bad, a lot of people hated ffxi because they were bad too. Just part of getting old and not keeping up.

[Elcura]

You have choices, play classic or play the game and have fun. It's alright that you hate it because you're bad, a lot of people hated ffxi because they were bad too. Just part of getting old and not keeping up.

You're the worst.

[Salodin]

I really do hope they balance the sequels better, or give higher difficulties out of the gate. The stagger problems are really a downer, and as much as those boss battles were pretty memorable, I also remember getting fucked on that stagger bar on a lot of those fights and its definitely a ding on that first playthrough experience.

I mean I guess it only happened cause I was rocking the boss without stagger anyways, but then back to my original complaint of harder difficulties from the get go. Final fantasy got too too easy after ps1 days

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[Shenrien]

I mean I could lie if it makes you feel better and tell you that the gameplay sucks when it actually doesn't. To go off and say the game needs gambits because they're bad at managing their party is hilarious.

[Salodin]

Yeah the game play is completely different. Just play ff12 if you like a game with gambits, I really liked this system a lot and honestly the shortcut system was pretty much on point.

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[Yabby]

I really do hope they balance the sequels better, or give higher difficulties out of the gate. The stagger problems are really a downer, and as much as those boss battles were pretty memorable, I also remember getting fucked on that stagger bar on a lot of those fights and its definitely a ding on that first playthrough experience.

I mean I guess it only happened cause I was rocking the boss without stagger anyways, but then back to my original complaint of harder difficulties from the get go. Final fantasy got too too easy after ps1 days

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The stagger >> Cutscene was my only real issue with the battle system. I didn't really see it often my 1st playthrough, but on hard mode, I saw this happen a lot. Once you understand the battle system and how to stagger/etc it happened a lot.

[Elcura]

I mean I could lie if it makes you feel better and tell you that the gameplay sucks when it actually doesn't. To go off and say the game needs gambits because they're bad at managing their party is hilarious.

I'm not saying it sucks personally but it does need a lot of work. It's far better than anything FFXV tried to pull off.

The game doesn't need gambits perse but it does need a way to better influence AI so it isn't fucking useless and you can macro more than micro manage everything. There's manual tricks and stuff you can do with each character and that is good, but that you need to literally take control of a character to either have them not get hit like a fucking idiot or actually just attack stuff to build ATB is frustrating. Enemy AI straight beelining to your currently controlled character just makes battles messy. Managing your party isn't difficult it's just tedious.

But that's what options are for, if you want to micromanage your party you do you, but if you don't want to have to do everything yourself some options to make the AI less useless would be the best.

[Gokulo]

While I'm not one to usually start a new game on Hard, I do think they should have that option unlocked from the get go.

[Tyrath]

While I'm not one to usually start a new game on Hard, I do think they should have that option unlocked from the get go.

They designed Hard Mode to be based around leveled up character and a full array of materia unfortunately.

[BerenTebogo]

Shen has reverted back to his autism days of pretending to be a pregnant girl on the internet I see. Good to see it come full circle.

Imagine openly agreeing with such a smoothbrain in here and thinking it supports your argument.

[BerenTebogo]

Anyway, Elcura got my point. Having options isn't a bad thing. The system could've been made better and even those of you who are up their own asses with superiority about the combat system in a game that you won't even replay yourselves (because it wasn't all that great) probably could've found a way to tweak it more to your liking with some customization.

Wild, guys. Wild.

Edit: For those of you who have forgotten, the basic gambit system in FFXII is "party leader target : attack". Period. If you want to go beyond that, you can, or you can turn gambits 100% off.

[Shenrien]

Shen has reverted back to his autism days of pretending to be a pregnant girl on the internet I see. Good to see it come full circle.

Imagine openly agreeing with such a smoothbrain in here and thinking it supports your argument.

Oof ouch, ya got me good there with that one. How will I ever recover. It's cool you wanna live in the past and embrace what you're safe and comfortable with while the world passes you by because the new is scary and difficult to adjust to.