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    I took the focus switching aspect to be an intentional choice on the designers part as a strategy element for combat. Some fights, Bahamut immediately comes to mind, really depend on fast and effective focus switching. That said, they still should have made AI more programmable.

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    Also I know for certain I didn't do a fraction of what I could have with gambits. I mostly automated buffs and heals, and if I wanted to grind I set actions to attack anything near me.

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    Even if you love the current FF7R battle system, what's wrong with having options and one of the options being to play standard battle system.

    I just cannot fathom loving the taste of boot so much that you can't stop licking boots long enough to realize that choice is the spice of life and these boots need some fucking hot sauce.

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    My favorite discovery with the battle system was that the materia spells were not broken up in the spell list. This means you could stack one spell to be a powerhouse.

    IE: Thunder+Mig in one slot, Thunder+ MP Absorption, Thunder + HP Absorption.

    Now if you cast Thunder, you get all the support materia attached. If you had more than 3 bounces on the cast (Which most bosses have mult hit locations) casting Teir I/II would recover a massive amount of MP, and III's would cost about 4 mp.

    I'm hoping for a lot more materia in the next chapter, as playing OG my favorite part of mixing materia to find cool combos.

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    Living is making choices!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yabby View Post
    My favorite discovery with the battle system was that the materia spells were not broken up in the spell list. This means you could stack one spell to be a powerhouse.

    IE: Thunder+Mig in one slot, Thunder+ MP Absorption, Thunder + HP Absorption.

    Now if you cast Thunder, you get all the support materia attached. If you had more than 3 bounces on the cast (Which most bosses have mult hit locations) casting Teir I/II would recover a massive amount of MP, and III's would cost about 4 mp.

    I'm hoping for a lot more materia in the next chapter, as playing OG my favorite part of mixing materia to find cool combos.
    Dafuq.

    Does it work like that in the original?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrath View Post
    Dafuq.

    Does it work like that in the original?
    I didn't know this either and it is pretty cool. I'll probably try it out in 3 years in part 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrath View Post
    Dafuq.

    Does it work like that in the original?
    It has been a long time since I played OG, but if i remember each line is a materia slot. So i don't think it works the same. One thing i forgot to say, all of the materia has to be the same level for it to work. In my case, i had 3 max.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrath View Post
    Dafuq.

    Does it work like that in the original?
    Pretty sure it does. Main difference from what I remember is that you needed master materia but it's been years. Maybe it didn't but I remember some crazy shit like:

    Quad Magic + Fire, Fire + Steal, Fire + MP Absorb, Added Cut + Fire, W Magic, Mega All and so on, but it wasn't very practical in the original but it was a lot of fun. This is mostly what I was looking forward to in the remake but it's even more impractical due to limited slots and support materia.

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    Yeah I think there is a lot of scaling they can do in Part 2 and 3 etc. just by expanding the amount of Materia slots and the support Materias available. They can add Materia growth back in as well.

    Also another trick you can do with that is using the link support materia that makes your non-active party members repeat an action your main character does. So you can just cast a spell in order to automate Aerith to supercast for instance.

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    SPOILERS Final Fantasy 7 Remake SPOILER THREAD - CURIOSITY KILLED THE CAT

    They definitely need to bring materia growth back. Materia being able birth a new one once it’s maxed out was noticeably missed in this game.

    The fact there’s only one All/Magnify materia in the game is fucking ridiculous. It basically forces you to marry it to one materia and one materia only for the duration of the game due to the lack of being able to swap sets mid-fight. The game doesn’t encourage you at all to try out different setups. No idea how devs thought that was a good idea.

    Than again, a lot of people here seemed frightened by the idea of being given more freedom and control of the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prothescar View Post
    I can't believe he actually wrote this shit lmao.
    You obviously haven't seen some of his posts in the various movie threads lol.

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    Letting someone have more control over their *single player* experience seems like the most obvious thing to include in the world to me, particularly considering there's already easy/hard options.

    I didn't particularly like the character swapping, FWIW - at the very least, enemies beelining for whoever the player is controlling breaks immersion by itself and it worked against the one thing the AI characters seemed to be able to do consistently: hold block while slowly circling around the battlefield.

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    Yeah, buff stacking materia was a thing in the original. Was ultimately what helped to differentiate endgame slot options where having as many links as possible let you do the most with various abilities.

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    SPOILERS Final Fantasy 7 Remake SPOILER THREAD - CURIOSITY KILLED THE CAT

    If I delete FF7R do I keep my save files? Need to make some room for GoW.

    Edit: nvm. 6souls told me where to look. Bye Felicia.

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    Wow, where to begin.

    Honestly wanting to be told exactly how to play the game by daddy enix instead of having options is just stupid. One of the options you have is to play the game exactly how daddy intended for you to play. Wanting there to be no customization is just so stupid. Even shit like Tales games has "cast spells until MP < 25%". Do you know how basic that is? Do you not like such an idea? Are you an idiot? I think you are an idiot. I think you are a stupid idiot who wants to be told how to play the game by daddy so that you don't have to think.

    Your complaints about gambits boil down to "I could google what the optimal gambit setup to use was so it was too easy". So when daddy square wouldn't tell you exactly how to play you had no option but to fall back on daddy google because you can't think for your fucking self you stupid idiot.

    Edit: I just remembered as well. In FFXII, as an example, you had access to an accessory in the first area of the game that makes it so you get 0 EXP from fights. So if you want the ability to be autistic and try to play the game at level 1 you can. You don't have to. I don't have to. I don't want to. But if somebody does, they can. And that's lovely.

    And you're an idiot.
    You're tossing out personal attacks, calling people autistic and dragging people because they don't agree with your opinion on a video game, how sad are you?

    The game is meant to be played and experienced based on how the DEVs of said game want you to experience it. It is their product, their art, their vision, so yes it should be played as they intended you to experience it.

    Aside from that, I have no idea what you're even talking about. Nobody said they didn't want extra customization, they simply disagreed with your OPINION that there should be a gambit system. Not everyone likes the gambit system from FF12, isn't that a shocker? We PREFERRED to play the game like the DEVs wanted it and how it was originally in FF7, choosing the options in battle for your entire team. Additonal options like Auto Cure x times or Provoke, were fine.

    Why do you think that is something insane that you keep personally attacking people? Everyone is allowed an opinion, yours is not superior to everyone elses. I'm honestly baffled at how you behave over something so stupid. It makes sense why people even stop posting here, you have this hivemind that wants you to think just like them or they lay on the personal attacks lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elcura View Post
    Wow damn. I didn't know games were easy to beat when you googled how to beat them. Very cool.
    Conveniently ignoring the last line of the sentence. All the system did was take off responsibility in controlling the other two characters. It wasn't some extremely complex thing and that is all it boiled down to, automation. So you're comparing this game FF7R, where you have to manually input commands, to one that has the battles automated for you. We can debate the option is there to use or not, but why do you/Proth have to resort to attacking people and laughing off their opinions just because you don't agree with it? I point back to what I said earlier, if I wanted to force myself to have a hard mode by never equipping gear past level 1, I would not like it over actually having a hard mode. Clearly the DEVs vision for the game was the player having to control each character individually, or they would have had more materia to automate things.

    Quote Originally Posted by Melena View Post
    You obviously haven't seen some of his posts in the various movie threads lol.
    Why do people have such aversion to different opinions and perspectives? It's the purpose of a forum.

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    So you admit you are a stupid idiot.

    Wasn’t that much easier?

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    Cool personal attack bro, is that all you do when someone disagrees with you? Are you like 10 years old?

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    I do my best to avoid wasting actual thought on stupid idiots. Which is what you are.

    You stupid idiot.

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